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Jig Rod:  Kistler or Daiwa

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I am in the market for a new jig rod.

I have narrowed it down to the Kistler MG 7' H jig and toad rod,

DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS:

Action: Fast

Length: 7'

Power: Heavy

Lure weight: 1/4 - 1 1/2 oz.

Line weight: 14 - 30 lb.

Handle length: 10"

Line guides: 9 plus the tip

or a Team Daiwa S 7'6" Heavy Action flipping stick. 3/8 to 1 1/2oz

I would be using this rod for 1/4 to 3/4oz jigs, 3/4oz C-Rigs, 1/4 to 3/4oz T-Riged craws, 1/2oz foot ball jigs, and frogging.  

I pitch 90% more than I flip.  I am looking at a rod that has a "softer" tip to facilitate pitching, but a heavy power butt section that comprises 3/4 of the rod.  

I have both the TDS 7' MH TDS worm/jig rod and the Kislter MG ACP 6'9" rods.  I use the TDS for weightless plastics and 3/16oz finsesse jigs.  It works great for those, but I need something more stiff.  My only gripe with the 76 TDS rod is the super long handle, however, it does have a parabolic heavy action.  

I am leaning toward the Kistler jig and toad due to its listed action, lure specs, and handle that I would use for pitching.  Does anyone have this rod, and does it have a parabolic action  but with enough power to pull the fish from heavy cover, and can braded line be used?

Thank you,

HW

Kistler, no question about it. I have a 7' MH Kistler that I use for flipping, pitching, jigs, t-rigs, and weightless plastics. I love the rod, it is very light, extremely sensitive, has more than enough backbone, and is just a great rod all around. I highly reccomend Kistler rods to anyone.

And braid can be used with no problem.

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Bass pro,

which Kislter model do you use?

I believe I found the rod...The Kistler MG H Magnum worm MgMWCRH70.  I read on a few other forums that the power and action is inbetween a MH APC and the Heavy Jig and toad.  

Exactly what I am looking for:  Enough tip to pitch and cast lures, but with a parabolic bend and stout 3/4 section to move fish out of cover.

Thanks

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Hands down.....Kistler

I have 3 Kistlers and love them, not saying there's anything wrong with Daiwa's. I pitch jigs with a Kistler Mag TS 7'8 all day flipping stick. It's a incredible rod for the money. I pitch tube's with a Kistler  Graphite plus 6'8  heavy action, another great rod for the money.

      Now I have 3 buddies who love the Daiwa Light N' Tough flippin stick. But 2 of them have broke setting the hook.

Bass pro,

which Kislter model do you use?

I believe I found the rod...The Kistler MG H Magnum worm MgMWCRH70.  I read on a few other forums that the power and action is inbetween a MH APC and the Heavy Jig and toad.  

Exactly what I am looking for:  Enough tip to pitch and cast lures, but with a parabolic bend and stout 3/4 section to move fish out of cover.

Thanks

I use the Graphite Plus series, which is the Kistler baseline and that is why I am so impressed with it. The rod is simply amazing and outperforms many rods I have used that cost twice as much, I assure you the MG will be everything you need and want in a rod.

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Sounds to me you've already made you mind up since you didn't give much information on the Daiwa.

I have a Daiwa TD-V701MHRB Team Daiwa-V Length: 7' 0 Line Class: 10-20 lb Lure Weight: ¼-1 oz Power: Medium Heavy Action: Extra Fast. I use it for pitching jigs in deep water Hydrilla as well as flipping buck brush in the spring.

  • Super User

I think it's apples to oranges.  the 7'6" flipping rod is most often a mod-fast rod, designed to work at extremely close range.  The kistler you mentioned is a different animal.  It's also 6" shorter so it will feel lighter and balance better.  

Besides, the faster the rod, the "softer" the tip so you will probably like pitching a lot better on the kistler in your comparison.

I agree with Catt, it looks like your mind is made up.

Like Flechero said.

I pitch much more comfortable with a 7.0.

I recently broke the tip of my LTA and the response of the CS was superb!!!! No questions asked.

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The Daiwa TDS rod is out.  The handle is too long for me and I want a 7' heavy power rod with a fast (flexible) tip to enable me to cast and pitch, but now which one.  

I am looking at the Kistler MG magnum worm rod:  It states that it is not a broomstick on the kistler website.  

DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS:

Action:Fast

Length: 7'

Power: Heavy

Lure weight: 1/4 - 1 oz.

Line weight: 12 - 35 lb.

Handle length: 10"

Line guides: 8 plus the tip

or

The Kistler MG Jig and Toad Rod:  

DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS:

Action: Fast

Length: 7'

Power: Heavy

Lure weight: 1/4 - 1 1/2 oz.

Line weight: 14 - 30 lb.

Handle length: 10"

Line guides: 9 plus the tip

Which one would be better for my needs?  I must say that where I fish in NEPA, the heaviest cover I fish is lilly pads and some laydowns, not super heavy slop.   I also very rarely fish super heavy lures, but I would like a capability for 3/4oz c rigs and jigs, and frogs.  But this rod will most likely be used for 1/4 to 3/8oz jigs with 14 to 15lb mono for now.  

Since the mag worm rod is not a broom stick and I am familiar with the MG APC MH power rod, would it be safe to say the Mag worm rod is a tad bit heavily powered than the APC, but "lighter" than the jig and toad?  My 7' MH TDS has the tip, but it is way too parabolic for moving fish quickly out of cover.  

I own the kistler mag. 7' frog/jig rod.  I haven't fished everything across the board, but I really like this rod.  I fish worms, toads, and frogs through pads and an occasional 1/2-3/4 ounce jig.  

It has the tip.  It has the backbone.  

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Kistler.

You will not be disappointed.

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