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All Star ASR rod vs Daiwa Light & Tough rod

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New to the forum.  

I just got a Shimano Stradic 4000 FI.  I want to throw crankbaits and topwater.  

Which rod is the better marriage for my Stradic?  Or is there another rod out there that can do better than these two?  I'm looking at spending less than $150.

Thanks.

Powell rods are one you should look at.  139.99

B&R Outlaw rods are also deserve a look at 129.99 plus they are 100% American made.

A buddy bought a Light and Tough.  Broke it first time out.  That is the only experience I have with them.

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why would youthrow cranks on a spinning rod?the retrieve rate is to high.

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Depends on the reel.  I throw light cranks on my All Star American Classic 6'6" m/f and a AG Cardinal 502ALB which has a 25" retrieve.  It's a very good cranking rig.

I've never fished with a Daiwa L&T, but I did handle them in the local BPS and wasn't impressed. I actually wound up leaving with two BPS Extremes instead. They just had a better feel in the hand.

Why not match that Shimano reel with a Shimano rod? The Crucial runs about $130-$140 and is an excellent rod. I've got a 6'6" Med/Fast teamed with a Symetre 2500 that I just love. I'll probably pick up another in 6'8" ML for dropshotting and retire my 6'8" ML BPS Extreme.

why would youthrow cranks on a spinning rod?the retrieve rate is to high.

I've got to agree with dodgeguy on this one. The 36" retrieve rate on the Stradic is just too high, IMHO.

I can't even imagine trying to throw crankbaits on a spinning rod but if you insist I'd say this model ASR spinning rod would probably work out best.

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WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to have to agree with the shimano crucial.  They even make a spinning rod designed for crankbaits.  It looks sweet as well with a split grip and everything.  

Welcome to the best bass forum on the net!

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Wow!

A 4000.

Big reel that needs a big rod.

All Star's are great rods.

I would suggest the All Star brand.

But any name brand should do fine.

Fiberglass will have more feel than graphite so go with a fiberglass rod for cranks and jerkbaits.

6'6" to 7' should suffice.

So how big are the bass you are trying to catch with a 4000 size reel?

They must be monsters.

I use the 2500's and they do fine.

Just wondering.  :)

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It looks like he is making a lot of rookie mistakes.

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Thanks for all your advices.  It looks like it will be Crucial since All Star has a one year warranty only.

See if you can return that 4000 and get a 2500 stradic, the 4000 is kinda overkill for almost all bass and the weight reduction would allow you to cast those cranks without getting tired as fast as a 4000 would.  

then get a rod with a lifetime warranty...shimano like you've chosen or maybe a st croix/loomis!

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