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What knot do you use to tie on your leaders?

Does anyone use a swivel instead of directly tying the 2 lines together?

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I use a Redwing Tackle swival for deep dropshoting. These swivals are super small and standard stuff in Steelheading. For the dropshot getting your bait up and down is very time consuming with the swival you just reel fast and let it spin.

I've tryed and liked  most of the knots and always end up tying a surgeon knot and about 8-12ft flouro leader.

Garnet

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I do alot of steelhead fishing on the Eie tribs and we build leaders in three sections. I use the double surgens knot on all three sections. It's easy to tie and is very strong.

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I use flouro leaders with braid most of the time, and never use a swivel.  I like my leaders so long that they must be reeled onto the reel through the eyes, so have to use a knot.

I have used with good success the uni to uni knot.  After a few days of getting reeled and cast through the eyes it is a good idea to cut off a little and rety.  I have lost a few fish with old knots when I got too lazy to rety.

A knot I have been experimenting with with good success so far is the Albright knot, a popular knot used to tie leaders to fly line.  The advantage of the Albright over the uni-uni is that the large diameter line is only doubled with the Albright.  You have 5 thicknesses of the large diameter line on one of the uni's.  This makes the Albright a more compact knot.  I haven't used it enough to have a solid conclusion about durability.  The strength as tied seems excellent.

With moderate practice, both knots are easy to tie.  There are many sites with instructions for the knots-do an on-line search.

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i use a uni knot to tie directly to my 20 or 30 # test power pro braid , i don't bother with a swivel cause the braid eats all the line twist and it doesn't seem to bother it at all . as for twists on the uni , i only use 3 per line ( 3 for the braid , 3 for the flouro , then pull them tight ) i have had NO issues with knot slippage or breakage cause of this . i know you are supposed to use 5-7 twists per line in a uni but you get a thicker knot that sometimes catches on your guides during a cast and will cause wind knots .....

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I use the uni-uni connection with 6 turns on both lines. Most of my setups utilize 30# Stren Super Braid and 20# XPS Fluorocarbon. After I complete the knot (I don't double the braid), I trim both tag ends flush with the knots. My rods have 6mm tips and I have no problems with knot failure, casting or retrieving. I retie after about 75-100 bass caught. The longer knot length passes thru the guides better especially when casing than the shorter 3 turn version as pgersumky suggests and that is due to the tapered shape of the knot as the lines  butt against each other.

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I use the uni-uni connection with 6 turns on both lines. Most of my setups utilize 30# Stren Super Braid and 20# XPS Fluorocarbon. After I complete the knot (I don't double the braid), I trim both tag ends flush with the knots. My rods have 6mm tips and I have no problems with knot failure, casting or retrieving. I retie after about 75-100 bass caught. The longer knot length passes thru the guides better especially when casing than the shorter 3 turn version as pgersumky suggests and that is due to the tapered shape of the knot as the lines butt against each other.
it seems as though when i do 5-7 turns , it's the braid that when butted up to the flouro , that it gets thicker rather than taper as u suggest . im gonna go check your theory out right now . ill come back and tell you what i find out .

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I use the uni-uni connection with 6 turns on both lines. Most of my setups utilize 30# Stren Super Braid and 20# XPS Fluorocarbon. After I complete the knot (I don't double the braid), I trim both tag ends flush with the knots. My rods have 6mm tips and I have no problems with knot failure, casting or retrieving. I retie after about 75-100 bass caught. The longer knot length passes thru the guides better especially when casing than the shorter 3 turn version as pgersumky suggests and that is due to the tapered shape of the knot as the lines butt against each other.
it seems as though when i do 5-7 turns , it's the braid that when butted up to the flouro , that it gets thicker rather than taper as u suggest . im gonna go check your theory out right now . ill come back and tell you what i find out .

wel i went and tried it , the uni-knot was twice as long with the 7 wraps per line compared to my 3 wraps . so i think i will stick to my 3 wraps per side cause i think the strentgh is still the same and im eliminating more of a chance of wind knots in my line cause of the smaller knot that has to pass thru the guides   ::)

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Does anyone else use one of those knot tying tools for doing their uni knots? I got one the other day and did some test knots with it and I like it.

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Does anyone else use one of those knot tying tools for doing their uni knots? I got one the other day and did some test knots with it and I like it.
even if i did , uni-knots are so basic to tie , i wouldn't want one . sorry , don't mean to be rude at all , but for me uni's are as easy to tie as an improved cinch knot . if it helps u , im glad u like it .

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