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p-line cxx vs. berkley big game in 25 lb. test

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what are every ones choice of the 2 ????? like wich one is stronger , more manageable , wich one has less memory ??? i want to use this as a leader off of power pro braid ( 80 lb ) for 4-8 oz. swimbaits . also if anyone has other recomendations i would like to hear them as well , thanks !!!  ;)

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I use 20Lb p-line flurocoated with 15# Powerpro, works very well.  It's thinner and it seems to have good knot strength.

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can you guys explain to me the pros and cons of your choices , please .......... ;)

I've been using 25# Big Game for the last year. But just recently switched to 30# CXX.  CXX has tons of memory, but I bought the KVD line conditioner after hearing good things about it and the memory vanished after use.  I would highly suggest using some.  I can't give you pro's and cons since I haven't had any time using 30 CXX yet.  But it seemed that the Big Game got nicked fairly easily. I have used 4# CXX for dropshotting and I can tell you that stuff is tough as bricks!!!  By far the strongest 4# i've ever used.

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cxx has more memory but its nothing that a little KVD Line and Lure can't fix.  Cxx has more abrasion resistance than Big Game.

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I don't worry about abraison, I check the line and just change it when needed.

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I don't worry about abraison, I check the line and just change it when needed.

Who has time to change their line after every cast?

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Big Game is stronger, more abrasion resistance, shock-resistance, less memory and plus I can buy two 600 yd rolls for what P-Line cost.

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I would just go with big game. I use it a good deal for many mono applications and find it to be a very sound line for the money. You mentioned memory and managability, which go hand in hand. I would expect big game which is pure mono to have less memory than Pline cxx. Pline, being a co polymer line, is going to have plenty of memory. When I hear copolymer, I think memory issues. Having said that, however, as a leader, neither line will have memory issues in your applicaton because the line will never make it to the spool. As for strength, I find 20 BG to be very tuff. I would think if you are going to 25, you are going to have a super strong setup, provided your knot system is sound.

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CXX all day long and twice on Sunday.

I don't think you'd have anything to worry about when catching those dinks.Line should be the least of your worries.  ;)

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I use 50# or so of both Big Game and CXX, on two seperate rod/reel rigs for carp fishing.  

Stats so far for 2008:

Big Game- lost 4 fish due to line snappage

CXX- lost 4 fish due to their necks snapping from setting the hook :)

As much as i love the good ol' USA (well, not so much now a days), you can't beat Japanese engineered fishing tackle like CXX or Daiwa.  One day we'll be able to stand at that level, like how one day we'll be at the level of Japanese car and cell phone technology  ;D  ;)  8-)

Can you tell i'm asian?  :)

but in all seriousness, i've lost 4 carps this year due to Big Game and none to CXX with same #-test line.  I might switch my Big Game rod/reel into a PowerPro combo from my good experiences with the 10# powerpro i have on my soft plastic spinning reel rig.

But yes, CXX is indeed more expensive than Big Game.  and yes, powerpro is indeed more expensive than both, but isn't a few more dollars worth 100 lbs of more fish (4 x ~25lbs carp = 100lbs)?  

That's my philosophy

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I use 50# or so of both Big Game and CXX, on two seperate rod/reel rigs for carp fishing.

Stats so far for 2008:

Big Game- lost 4 fish due to line snappage

CXX- lost 4 fish due to their necks snapping from setting the hook :)

As much as i love the good ol' USA (well, not so much now a days), you can't beat Japanese engineered fishing tackle like CXX or Daiwa. One day we'll be able to stand at that level, like how one day we'll be at the level of Japanese car and cell phone technology ;D ;) 8-)

Can you tell i'm asian? :)

but in all seriousness, i've lost 4 carps this year due to Big Game and none to CXX with same #-test line. I might switch my Big Game rod/reel into a PowerPro combo from my good experiences with the 10# powerpro i have on my soft plastic spinning reel rig.

But yes, CXX is indeed more expensive than Big Game. and yes, powerpro is indeed more expensive than both, but isn't a few more dollars worth 100 lbs of more fish (4 x ~25lbs carp = 100lbs)?

That's my philosophy

Man, if you are snaping off 50# anything at hookset, particularly on soft liped carp, something is way wrong.

Have any of you P-Line fans ever looked at the actual line diameter of p line cxx vs the same# of other comparable lines. It is always significantly larger in diameter, so there is no magic in its performance. Generaly, there simply is not an apples to apples comparison.

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I use 50# or so of both Big Game and CXX, on two seperate rod/reel rigs for carp fishing.

Stats so far for 2008:

Big Game- lost 4 fish due to line snappage

CXX- lost 4 fish due to their necks snapping from setting the hook :)

As much as i love the good ol' USA (well, not so much now a days), you can't beat Japanese engineered fishing tackle like CXX or Daiwa. One day we'll be able to stand at that level, like how one day we'll be at the level of Japanese car and cell phone technology ;D ;) 8-)

Can you tell i'm asian? :)

but in all seriousness, i've lost 4 carps this year due to Big Game and none to CXX with same #-test line. I might switch my Big Game rod/reel into a PowerPro combo from my good experiences with the 10# powerpro i have on my soft plastic spinning reel rig.

But yes, CXX is indeed more expensive than Big Game. and yes, powerpro is indeed more expensive than both, but isn't a few more dollars worth 100 lbs of more fish (4 x ~25lbs carp = 100lbs)?

That's my philosophy

Man, if you are snaping off 50# anything at hookset, particularly on soft liped carp, something is way wrong.

Have any of you P-Line fans ever looked at the actual line diameter of p line cxx vs the same# of other comparable lines. It is always significantly larger in diameter, so there is no magic in its performance. Generaly, there simply is not an apples to apples comparison.

oh no, it's not at hookset.  i fish for carp at a lake filled with fallen timber and such, and carp are notorious for moving from one side of the lake to another while fighting, so my lines take a beating going through so much timber.  I've even considered using 100# line once... but turned out to be complete overkill.

i guess ur right.  i have 10# CXX and 10# original stren in my hands right now, and there's a .002" difference.  Hmmm...

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Have any of you P-Line fans ever looked at the actual line diameter of p line cxx vs the same# of other comparable lines. It is always significantly larger in diameter, so there is no magic in its performance. Generaly, there simply is not an apples to apples comparison.

There is an apples to apples comparison.  Look at the line diameter, not an arbitrary designation of 'pound test'.

The bottom line is that PLine CXX is the strongest line (in my experience) on the market.  There aren't many lines I haven't used and I keep coming back to CXX.

My experiences with Big Game revealed a lack of QC on Berkley's part.  The line is terribly inconsistent.  May work for some people, but I threw away about 1000 yards of it earlier this year.

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Strength vs. diameter is a very important factor. As a rule of thumb, strength is a function of diameter,

Most lines are also underrated by manufacturers; the most underrated line is the P-Line CXX at twice its stated pound test. So if you're comparing 15 pound test line the P-Line CXX will actually be 30 pound test.

Abrading the lines:

All of the lines lost at least 20 percent of their initial strength. The P-Line lost the most (27 percent)

This test was preformed for Bass & Walleye Boats Magazine which chooses not to include Big Game.

http://www.bwbmag.com/output.cfm?id=1548379&sectionid=312

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iv'e been using 20# big game on a 5 oz. swimbait and the line hasn't snapped yet , i wasn't slinging as hard as i wanted to , but enough to test it's strength . i want to be a little more confident when i toss these big baits , that's why i want to get 25# line . it looks as tho i'm gonna get some more big game ...... thanks for the comments  ;)

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