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Uses of a 7.0 baitcaster

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I have a decent 5.1 reel and a decent 6.4 but with a little extra money to spend I was looking for a good new reel. I was wondering how much use a 7.0 would get and its applications? Or should I buy a good 6.4 and use it over my old reel? I dont have a reel geared higher than 6.4 and was wondering what I would gain if I had one?

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I had been wondering the same thing?

I was told of course for Buzz Baits and I was told by a local that anything that requires having slack line pulled in quickly needs to be a 7:0.1 reel.  I presume this would be Jerk Baits and Top Water Baits.

I am sure there are different suggestions out there, just what I have been told so far.

Later, :)

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The way I understand it is if you move the bait with the rod, use a higher ratio. Move the bait with the reel, use a lower ratio.

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The higher the gear ratio, the more line taken up per turn of the handle (7:1 is like 28" per turn and 5:01 just around 20" per turn I think). Also it's said that the higher ratio gives a faster line take up but not as powerfull as a lower ratio. So any bait you want to move/fish fast, the higher the ratio. Any bait you want to move/fish slow, the lower the ratio. Even tho that is controlled by the fisherman, not the reel itself. "IMO"

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In bass fishing you really don't need a low ratio to winch the fish in since they really aren't that powerful and don't get that big (compared to saltwater fish). It all comes down to preference.

I will continue to buy 7.1 ratio casting reels because I like how they feel and you can really zip in your bait when you're done with the cast, possibly resulting in more casts per day and more fish per day. To slow-roll, I just reel really, really slowly :-)

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yes i have all 6.3.1 revos if need be i can slow down and they are fast enough for anything ,,,,think about i think the difference 6.4.1 to 7.1 is 3" per turn ,,,,,,

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I have a winch(low speed) for crankbaits, A 6.3 to 1(general purpose), and 7, 7.1to 1 for all other applications(4 Revos STX HS and 3 Quantum PT HS).  All have their place in my arsenal.

Kelley

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By the way, gear ratios for different reels do not necessarily have the same inches per turn. For example the Quantum Energy PT with a 7.0 to 1 gear ratio brings in 29" per turn, while the Abu Garcia Ambassadeur C4 has a 6.3 to 1 gear ratio and brings in 30" per turn.

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Just slow down.

It isn't that simple.  Try cranking a DD-22 with a 7:1 and you'll be wishing for a 5:1 really quickly.

I only use a 7:1 when fishing lipless crankbaits.  I use a 6.4:1 for most everything else except deep crankbaits and big spinnerbaits.  I use 5:1 reels for those.

Many of you remember that we all caught fish just fine on those 3.8:1 Ambassadeurs.

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Mase....the only way that could be the case is if the spool is bigger on the reel of a 6.3 to 1 ratio than a 7 to 1 ratio (meaning 6.3(7) revolutions of the spool per 1 turn of the handle).  If the spools are the same in diameter than that can't be true...there are a lot of things you can argue but math isn't one of them.

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You totally misread my post, and then tried to correct me by stating the obvious. Go to basspro.com and read the line retrieve for the two reels listed above for the gear ratios. Like I said, just because two reels have the same gear ratio, doesn't mean they have the same rate of line retrieve.

And you'll notice I never stated the reason why the line retrieves are different, just that between different reels, sometimes they are, and that the rate of line recovery should be paid attention to more than the gear ratio.

Actually here are the links for the two reels I mentioned:

Abu: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_74091____SearchResults?ordProd=Y&CMID=BOTTOM_selectitems#itemDetail

Quantum: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_104126_100001000_100000000_100001000_100-1-0?ordProd=Y&CMID=BOTTOM_selectitems#itemDetail

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IPT is also varied by amount of spool filling....how much line you got... full spool, more IPT....less is less

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So if I didnt own a reel geared higher than 6.4 would I really be missing out on that much?

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So if I didnt own a reel geared higher than 6.4 would I really be missing out on that much?

No...not really

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You would be missing out on a high speed reel, which definitely isn't necessary, but just nice to have sometimes.

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Mase....

No man, I didn't read your post wrong or try to correct you. I should have stated what I was saying differently but it was intended for those who really didn't understand what the ratios mean on reels and how to somewhat determine IPT per different real....actually after I read it again, I really should have stated it differently....and BRR added something important too bout IPT with a spooled reel...my apologies

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A 7:1 is all about taking up slack. Reeling down when you get a bite represents the 2 or 3 second 'wait time' or interval in between the bite and hook set. A 7:1 takes up more slack and shortens the time between bite and hookset. Any plastic or jig rod will benefit from a 7:1. Equally beneficial is the ability for the high-speed reel to get your bait back to the boat....stat. Smart pros know getting more casts in=more fish....it's a numbers game (very similar to when I sold cars...not everyone will buy, but the more people I waited on....the more cars I sold). I read an article this year (kvd maybe?) about getting more casts in than your opponents, and this guy figured he makes about 700 casts while the competition was making only 500.. Before I had read any articles on it; I knew the times I had outfished my boater in tournaments was a direct result of me making more casts (don't get me wrong...it didn't happen every tournament  :)).  I didn't have the trolling motor to worry about, and I 'machine gun' casted. My boss at the car dealership used to say 'just get in front of people'. It's easy to apply that logic to bass fishing, and it makes sense. Getting your bait in front of more bass will directly increase your catch ratio. A 7:1 is an excellent aid in doing this. KVD fishes with 7:1's for everything...but he is more man than I :)

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