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hey hows it going? so im going to be throwing on some cheap "angler" 8lb line on my new bps extreme bc reel tomorrow or the day after to practice with then then i get the hang of it ill be putting on my line that im going to fish with.. ive got some trilene xl 14lb.. im wondering if you guys would recomend using that or if you would use something like a braided berkley braided, fused, or should i just stick with mono?

thanks in advance for any advice.

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Will you be fishing cover?  What will you be using this combo for?  T-rigs, jigs, cranks, topwater, etc?

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i think im going to use my medium action spinning rod for jigs/ worms.. im going to use this m/h baitcasting setup for topwater, crankbaits, spinnerbaits, as well as a 4" and 5" swimbaits.. and ya im going to try to find some good top water rats or mice or something to fish on top of the cover as well with this rod

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Superline is a must if you're going to fish on top of heavy cover.  It'll really help cut through the slop.

I usually fish mono/coploy for other topwater and cranks, but if I have to use a rod with braid for these apps, I back the drag off just a bit more than usual.  This will act as a small buffer, and keep the trebles from ripping out.

As long as this isn't a dedicated heavy cover rig, your 14lb should be fine.  Otherwise, if you're going to be fishing more cover than not, go with a superline.

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sounds good, thank you.

as of right now i dont have anything weedless unless i do a texas rig or something.. but no weedless lures. so far ive just been working the edges of cover/docks.. so i will probably use the mono for now then.. and also by the time i decide to get all the good weedless lures, fish the heavy cover, and buy braided line ill hopefully have my birdnesting under control ahahah id rather lose a spool full of mono than a more expensive braid.

thanks again.

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I switched to braid on my baitcaster setups recently and absolutly love it. Im using powerpro 50#. I am using it for pretty much everything. I like how it doesn't matter how hung up I get I can always get my lure out. I also noticed it casts nicer than mono as well or seems to. Past few times out I have has my lure toss through some branches and get nasty birdsnest. Usually with mono I will just cut off the spool and re-string if needed however with 10$ braid I just unspool it through all the nasty by hand, takes a while but its worth the 15 or so min to not have to buy more braid.

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so a birdsnest with braided can be saved? would a braidedn line being more limp and less memory possibly mean that a birsdsnest wouldnt be as bas with braided?? due do less of a recoil kind of effect?

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so a birdsnest with braided can be saved? would a braidedn line being more limp and less memory possibly mean that a birsdsnest wouldnt be as bas with braided?? due do less of a recoil kind of effect?

Yes, braided line has near-zero memory and "limp" is its middle name.

For spinning tackle, braid is the clear winner. For casting gear, braid is also an excellent choice (thin & low-stretch),

but many anglers prefer fluoro or copolymer line on their casting gear.

Speaking only for spinning gear, bird-nests are virtually non-existent with braided polyethylene.

Roger

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what are some good lines that you guys would recomend? for braided all ive really looked at are the berkley fireline (braided and fused)  and the spiderwire..

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what are some good lines that you guys would recomend? for braided all ive really looked at are the berkley fireline (braided and fused) and the spiderwire..

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My latest crush is Fireline Tracer Braid, I absolutely love the stuff!

It consists of alternating bands of line; 30" of Hi-Vis line then 30" of Lo-Vis line and so on throughout the spool.

Happily, it solved the unexplained failure problem that my wife & I both experienced with a bad batch of PowerPro.

Roger

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so lets say i get a 300yd spool of the new fireline or tracer braid an only use 150yds on my reel.. can i cut it without it freying? or will i have to melt the tip like you with with a rope or something? the reason i would be getting braided would be because of its strength and low diameter so i dont want to use a mono or flouro leader. is it relitively low vis to the fish? and on the tracer braid would it help to use the low vis part at the lure end rather than the high vis?

as you can tell ive never used braided line and yes my name on here is kingfisher... but like buying a dirtbike for example i wanted to pick one i could grow into rather than grow out of  ;)  and yes will continuing help from all of you i hope to one day grow into the name kingfisher...

thanks again.

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Fraying shouldn't be a problem, unless you hack at the line for a bit with a dull blade.  A sharp, small scissors will do the trick.  If worse comes to worse, a quick shot with a lighter will help frayed ends.

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thanks for the info.. im really 50-50 between braided and mono.. one minute i want braid one minute i want mono.. lol.. too indecive.. i think the only downfall to braid ive been hearing about would be that it isnt very good for shock resistance wheres the mono has a bit of stretch to help with that.. id hate to reef on it and have the line or worse, my rod snap because theres no give there..

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well ive never used braid, only mono so today i bought some tracerbraid. i figured rather than seeing what everyone else preferes wont really let me know what i preferre. i will never know until i try it. we had a really bad thunderstorm so i didnt get to try it but i will post what i think of it when i get to try.

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thanks for the info.. im really 50-50 between braided and mono.. one minute i want braid one minute i want mono.. lol.. too indecive.. i think the only downfall to braid ive been hearing about would be that it isnt very good for shock resistance wheres the mono has a bit of stretch to help with that.. id hate to reef on it and have the line or worse, my rod snap because theres no give there..

So why don't you use both? There are a number of possible configurations.

1) Mono main line, braid on top as a leader. You'll get your give and if you're fishing super heavy cover, you braid leader will cut through the junk.  A long enough leader might able enhance end of the line feedback to you.

2) Braid main line, mono or fluro as leader - You'll also get your give (stretch) and the exceptional feedback that braid does so well.

While the latter might be expensive upfront, using a long enough leader in a way that you don't get to the braid will mean that you probably won't have to replace the braid unless somehow it receives wear and tear.

3) The bait monkey solution - Get yourself a second reel.  ;D

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what are some good lines that you guys would recomend? for braided all ive really looked at are the berkley fireline (braided and fused) and the spiderwire..

I've used spiderwire, spiderwire stealth, Sufix, but recently switched to PowerPro Spectra.

The others are good, but I prefer the PowerPro. Plus, it is available in colors. My ten pound is red, fifteen yellow, anything above that is green.

I use it on everything, with a Seaguar fluoro leader. If you fish in the rocks, the leader is an absolute must. Braid will pop like sewing thread if a fish, even a small one takes it around a rock.

I use a twenty pound test leader on the ten and fifteen pound stuff, and thirty on the rest. Don't need winch cable for the waters I fish, but would not hesitate to use it when called for.

I tie the leader directly to the line with an Albright Special knot. I had been using swivels, but do not like them passing through the guides. The knot passes through just fine for casting.

I start with a six to seven foot leader. It allows me to retie to eliminate frays or to change baits several times before I need to replace it. When it gets to three feet or so, it's gone on the next retie.

If you use the Albright Special, tie it several times. It's fairly easy, but it's also easy to mess up. Put the tag end back through the loop the wrong way and it will pull apart.

At the most, with practice, you should be able to tie it in a couple of minutes. If you are dextrous, unlike me, you can probably do it in a minute or so. Maybe even quicker.

http://www.netknots.com/html/albright_special.html

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SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA

SOME ADVICE TO YOU:

IF YOU HOOK A HAWG ON SOME 8LBS I HOPE THAT YOU PROPERLY KNOW THE LIMIT OF YOUR TAKLE & HOW TOO USE YOUR DRAG. BUT 8LBS IS A GOOD ALL AROUND LBS TEST. I FIND MYSELF USING IT ALOT WHEN I AM FISHING PONDS.

BEST LINE FOR BASS ARE:

12-20LBS MONO. LINE. (GREAT ALL AROUND LINE FOR ALL TYPES OF BAITS THAT YOU MIGHT USE) (MY PERSONAL FARVORITES ARE THE BERKLEY TRILENE, OR SPIDER MONO: BOTH CAN HANDLE TREMENDOUS LOADS)

BRAID IS GOOD BUT WHEN IT COME DOWN TO JIGGING, FLIPPING, PITCHING OR RETRIEVAL STYLES SUCH AS "WALKING THE DOG," IT JUST DOESN'T PRODUCE THE ACTION THAT YOU WANT FOR STRIKES MAKING PRESENTATION MINIMAL. BRAID IS GOOD FOR THOSE EXTRA HEAVY SPOTS, WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO WORK A FROG OR POPPER, AREAS WHERE THE BRAID WILL CUT THROUGH BRUSH & DEBRIS (WHERE AS MONO MIGHT FRAY, SPLINTER, OR BREAK).

I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU SOME INSIGHT. ;)

GOOD LUCKS TO YOU IN CATCHING THE "BIG KAHUNA."

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thank you all for advice and information. the 8lb angler line i have is quite weak but im good with the drag and good at playing with the fish.. like i said before i wont know until i try it whether or not i like it..

i watched a clip called knot wars. they were using 15lb trilene and with the palomar and trilene knot the lines were breaking at 23lbs!! thats crazy.. anyways im going to try this braid and if i dont like it ive got a new roll of trilene xl 14lb that im going to use in its place.. ill still have a spinning rod with mono as my spare too for things that seem to work better with mono than braid.

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