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i just put berkly vanish 12lb 100% flourocarbon on my president and im having promblems with my line twisting and jumping of my reel. i left enough space on my reel. its very frustrating, just wondering what you guys think?

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Did you get the Trilene 100% or the Vanish? They are different.

What size is your President? I'm assuming that you mean a President spinning reel.  

My advice would be to take it off the reel and put it on a baitcaster or throw it away. 12lb fluoro just doesn't belong on spinning reels in my opinion, especially if it isn't 100%. I recommend 6lb or 8lb tests for spinning reels.

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1. What size spinning reel are you using?

2. What type of lures are you using most often?

3. What type of cover/structure to do you fish most often? (rocks/weeds/wood/etc...)

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its the 6735 on the 6' 6" combo i was planning on fishing a lot of soft baits, worms, tubes etc.... um i would say like medium cover i wont be fishing too thick of cover

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If I were you I would try a 100% Fluorocarbon (it's expensive but it's good) like Trilene 100% or Seaguar Invizx in 6lb or 8lb test. Or you could try a copolymer line like Yo Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft, again in 6-8lb test.

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Vanish is total junk, for either a main line or leader. Weak, brittle crap!

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Vanish is a perfectly fine fluoro. BUT...it was designed for open water use (with walleyes in mind). Manageability is a key feature -it's soft so it shreds easily. The 100% was designed more as a bass fishing line -it's tougher. But it's also thicker per lb test.

All 100% fluoro's are stiffer, more wiry, than mono. So they have a tendancy to jump off the spool. And they don't absorb water like nylon monos will which softens and tames monos. I dunk my mono loaded reels before I start fishing which helps in line handling. This helps only a very little bit with fluoro.

The trick with fluoro is to be extra careful in your regular line management. It's simply more apt to "misbehave" than monos.

-Load the reel carefully, then hang it out behind the boat to relieve all twist. Depending on techniques your using you may need to do this occasionally as you fish. I do this with monos too with certain lures/methods, but it's more critical with fluoro.

-Watch and feel for loose loops down in the spool as you fish. Fluoro being wiry and non-absorbant doesn't lay down evenly with varying tension as you retrieve, or fight a fish. Loose retrieves (as in soft plastics) load line loosely, even causing it to puff up' on the spool. Fighting a fish can bind the line down into the puffed' wraps. After a good fish, I'll make a long maintenance cast' to lay the line out and reload it under even tension.

-Check for nicks and frays. This seems to be a bigger problem with fluoros than monos, especially a soft fluoro like Vanish. Nicks can occur down in the spool if you get a tangle, or the line gets bound up some after you've fought a good fish.

-Knots should be carefully tied. Seating the knot is the critical step. Be careful not to friction burn a fluoro, or nick or crush the line.

-It helps to be well versed in spinning reel use the second nature stuff like maintaining tension at the first turn in a retrieve when most loops occur. Keeping a finger down there to maintain proper tension and feel for trouble is a good skill to acquire. And I simply keep an eye on the spool for how the line is laying and for loops.

- Because of its wiry nature, fluoro doesn't cast as far as mono's, and esp braid. So far, I've found I can cast with reasonable distance with a wide spool spinning reel design, with fluoro's up to about .012 diam. about 12lb Vanish or XPS, or 10lb. 100%. Above this and casts are shortened too much for my use. Above this, heavy lures help. And this may also have to do with the guides on older rods. Maybe a larger stripping guide and concept spacing would help. Anyway, just something to keep in mind.

Fluoro has advantages in fishing. But IME it takes more diligence in line handling. It's main advantage is in deeper water. In water less than say 6feet, I prefer mono or braid. If anything, for the ease in line handling.

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If I were you I would try a 100% Fluorocarbon (it's expensive but it's good) like Trilene 100% or Seaguar Invizx in 6lb or 8lb test. Or you could try a copolymer line like Yo Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft, again in 6-8lb test.

+1 on size / brand

Paul is dead on with his advice as usual.

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i only use vanish as a leader with braid too..

vanish by itsself is garbage.. it doesnt work too bad as a leader..

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