what is the point of having 2 rods rated the same except for a slight dif in action? what would be the reason for buying one of each? is there a certain type of crank that the MF would be better for over the F? Maybe Dave could chime in and help me understand why Gary designed this rod that way. if it just a matter of pref then why is there no 704cbmf glass stick?... help

what is the point of having 2 rods rated the same except for a slight dif in action?

For different baits.  Some guys (me) like a slightly faster taper for shallow cranks and vibe baits than the slower tapers normally be used for a deep diver.

I have the 705cb glass and love it! I have never used the 705cbmf so I can't comment. I have used other glass rods with a moderate fast action and do not like them. I like the fast action because they seem to cast lighter baits better for me.

Probably fast for shallow divers and Mod Fast for deeper divering baits

Probably fast for shallow divers and Mod Fast for deeper divering baits

see thats what i thought too but a pro friend of mine was telling me the opposite and I was like that doesn't make sense... maybe it was my sub par Korean that was confusing us.

I have all 3 rods and I was using the 704 cb glass for jerk baits and cranks down to six feet the 705cb glass for 6-12 foot cranks and vibes and the 705cbmf for 12+ baits (i cant carry 7'6" rods since I have no boat yet and they don't fit in my car well) and he was telling me to switch the 705cb and the 705cbmf around and i couldn't understand why.  :-[

Mostly personal preference. Some guys like a very moderate rod for cranking, and others like a slightly faster tip but that still loads up far down the rod when hooked up with a fish. I prefer the fast tip vs the mf personally, but know some guys that swear by the mf.

As for the no 704mf, I can't directly answer that as I don't know for sure. But I'd assume because the 705 is a bit more versatile for a larger range of lures, thus there's a slightly larger market for it. The 704 was designed to be Gary's ripbait rod more than anything I think, although it's still a great shallow cranking rod.

  Your pro friend sounds dead on when it comes to the deep diving crankbaits, I prefer a faster tip for deep cranking, and I know the 805RM was designed with that in mind. When a crankbait is 20ft deep, and a ways out there, too soft of a tip can negatively affect your hook up ratio.

  I personally prefer a faster tip for all my crankbaiting, obviously I still like it to be relatively moderate once a fish hooks up, but I can't stand the noodle like cranking rods some guys use. As long as it has enough give to not rip out the hooks, I'm happy.

Mostly personal preference. Some guys like a very moderate rod for cranking, and others like a slightly faster tip but that still loads up far down the rod when hooked up with a fish. I prefer the fast tip vs the mf personally, but know some guys that swear by the mf.

As for the no 704mf, I can't directly answer that as I don't know for sure. But I'd assume because the 705 is a bit more versatile for a larger range of lures, thus there's a slightly larger market for it. The 704 was designed to be Gary's ripbait rod more than anything I think, although it's still a great shallow cranking rod.

Your pro friend sounds dead on when it comes to the deep diving crankbaits, I prefer a faster tip for deep cranking, and I know the 805RM was designed with that in mind. When a crankbait is 20ft deep, and a ways out there, too soft of a tip can negatively affect your hook up ratio.

I personally prefer a faster tip for all my crankbaiting, obviously I still like it to be relatively moderate once a fish hooks up, but I can't stand the noodle like cranking rods some guys use. As long as it has enough give to not rip out the hooks, I'm happy.

ok so now i'm a little more confused ... I guess i'll just have to buy a boat and then buy th 765cb glass and use the mf for wake baits or  something ............ :'(

Mostly personal preference. Some guys like a very moderate rod for cranking, and others like a slightly faster tip but that still loads up far down the rod when hooked up with a fish. I prefer the fast tip vs the mf personally, but know some guys that swear by the mf.

As for the no 704mf, I can't directly answer that as I don't know for sure. But I'd assume because the 705 is a bit more versatile for a larger range of lures, thus there's a slightly larger market for it. The 704 was designed to be Gary's ripbait rod more than anything I think, although it's still a great shallow cranking rod.

Your pro friend sounds dead on when it comes to the deep diving crankbaits, I prefer a faster tip for deep cranking, and I know the 805RM was designed with that in mind. When a crankbait is 20ft deep, and a ways out there, too soft of a tip can negatively affect your hook up ratio.

I personally prefer a faster tip for all my crankbaiting, obviously I still like it to be relatively moderate once a fish hooks up, but I can't stand the noodle like cranking rods some guys use. As long as it has enough give to not rip out the hooks, I'm happy.

ok so now i'm a little more confused ... I guess i'll just have to buy a boat and then buy th 765cb glass and use the mf for wake baits or something ............ :'(

What kind of car do you happen to have? Back seat doesn't go down? I used to fit multiple 8fters in a small coupe just by sliding them in the passenger seat. I'm sure you've probably already tried but just figured I'd see. Rod protectors can also help keep the rod from hitting things when you slide them in.

The best thing to do is use both for both techniques and see what YOU prefer. As I said, a lot of it is personal preference, and having the confidence in what you're doing. As some other guys stated they like a more moderate action for deep cranking, I've tried it a feel like I lost a ton of fish because of it. After switching, I have the utmost confidence in landing every hooked fish.

I thought the Moderate actions were more about keeping the fish hooked with treble hooks.  David,  how many bass have thrown your cranks when they jump?

I thought the Moderate actions were more about keeping the fish hooked with treble hooks. David, how many bass have thrown your cranks when they jump?

The Cranking rods even with the fast tip still are still relatively "moderate". They are still soft enough to keep from ripping trebles out, but compared to the limp noodle cranking rod, they are a bit faster. They're by no means a flipping stick or anything like that. They still bend further down than a traditional fast or ex fast rod.

Since switching to traditional cranking rods in the Dobyns line ups, I've had no issues with spit hooks, BUT I have experienced losing fish with faster rods like jig and worm rods.

For me it's been the perfect combination because I really do not like limp rods that feel flimsy, but I was having issues with fish throwing cranks on traditional worm or spinnerbait rods.

Just for reference.... The Dobyns 705CB MH Fast is MUCH different than the 705 Mag Heavy Jig and C-Rig rod. They are designed crankbait rods, just without the noodle like feeling.

I thought the Moderate actions were more about keeping the fish hooked with treble hooks. David, how many bass have thrown your cranks when they jump?

The Cranking rods even with the fast tip still are still relatively "moderate". They are still soft enough to keep from ripping trebles out, but compared to the limp noodle cranking rod, they are a bit faster. They're by no means a flipping stick or anything like that. They still bend further down than a traditional fast or ex fast rod.

Since switching to traditional cranking rods in the Dobyns line ups, I've had no issues with spit hooks, BUT I have experienced losing fish with faster rods like jig and worm rods.

For me it's been the perfect combination because I really do not like limp rods that feel flimsy, but I was having issues with fish throwing cranks on traditional worm or spinnerbait rods.

Just for reference.... The Dobyns 705CB MH Fast is MUCH different than the 705 Mag Heavy Jig and C-Rig rod. They are designed crankbait rods, just without the noodle like feeling.

That's where I was confused. I assumed the Fast action crankbait rods would be more like a jig and worm rod. Thanks for the clarification.