Your calling my opinion a "rant" is an unfair tactic for discrediting it. Dan asked me why I felt this way (while interjecting his own opinion) and I responded. Isn't this what debating is about? My "rant" is directed toward those who have no reasonable claim to it. I'm not talking about people with old cars (although I'm unclear why they should get a good chunk of Joe taxpayers dollar either. Specifically, your desire to retire your old truck is reasonable but why should you get money from someone else to do so)? Broadly speaking, I'm talking about those who bought gas guzzlers, didn't give a %*&^$ what anybody thought, and now they are going to benefit from it. There are better ways of getting someone in the showroom than taking $ out of someone else's pocket. Or does money indeed grow on trees? Your argument that these programs always take money away from the taxpayer is exactly my argument against said programs.

This debate could likely go on and on and I doubt any of it will get anywhere. There are fundamental philosophical differences between the camps. Hence, why there are Republicans and why there are Democrats and why there are capitalists and why there are socialists (or communists). I imagine you can already tell where I rest. Let's just say I regret my choice in the previous election and it won't happen again.

Please re read my post and tell me where I state "Rant=Your opinion".  I simply asked that you realize I am toe to toe with you on one of your points but disagree with another (Debating right?? :).  It's simple as that... don't take it personal, we all value our own opinions.

My disagreement was centered around your broad argument that everybody cashing in on this program deserved it the least and that they didn't give a crap about being fuel conscious vehicles in the first place so why should they reap the rewards.  Your argument was stereotyping every user of this program into the above mentioned categories when there ARE people who "deserve" this and are using this program as it was designed.

Specifically, your desire to retire your old truck is reasonable but why should you get money from someone else to do so

I never asked for someone else to do so.  But I have a vehicle that fits the criteria of a program that the GOVERNMENT (Not me) created, I am a poor college student living on my own and pay for everything... wouldn't you reap the rewards if they laid this program out for you.  It's a no brainer.  Don't I give John Doe money every week out of my paycheck so he can sit at home and be a low life.  Don't I give Mary Jane money every week so she can work on rebuilding her life and starting a new future. Why can't I take my truck (Which I'm not going to do) and get a more reliable vehicle with better emissions (GO GREEN SAVE THE PLANET   :), gas mileage etc.  It's like the circle of life.  People benefit off of you and I every week.  It's the way of the world, there is no stopping it.

Brandon

Wish I had a clunker I could exchange for cash.   :-/

Ok, 2 mods already warned you, so let me be explicit: Please keep this on topic and answer the original question.  Anything that deviates from that will be considered "Political" and will be removed.

alright guys don't have my thread locked down just yet :

Looking for anyone that has already took advantage of the C&C?

Getting ready to leave work anyway so, my question will be, was your value of your vehicle greater than the rebate? if so did you get extra on top of that toward the newer vehicle not the rebate?

Try this:

http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/

My neighbor said he was going take advantage, but I haven't seen him all day to ask him about it.

Thanks root beer for that link. Just found out both of our cars don't qualify either. >

Oh wells,not like i can afford car payments anyway.  

My parents used the program. They traded in a Ford Windstar with 140k on it. It was my towing vehicle  >. It was hardly a clunker. It was in good shape and would have been good for another couple years. They got a 2009 escape.

My neighbor traded in his old Explorer for a new Escape that was loaded on it.

Think of it this way though, for those who do pay taxes, its a way of getting some of that money back, when trying to buy a vehicle.

Been out looking at a new Suburban and its unreal the way they have jacked the prices up on them. I decided to maybe go back to a pickup and guess what the prices are anywhere from 40,000 to 54,000 so I guess they are going to offer you a 4500 for a clunker. I bought a 2400sf house in 85 for 47,000 and I thought that was high. HMMM I guess I'm out of sink with the world. :

 Palomar I highly doubt that anyone is going to give more than the gov rebate price for the car. The car has to be destroyed thus it can't be worth anymore than the rebate.

That's how I understand it anyway.

Thats right f-f-i.  

THanks for some of the replys guys

I found out what I wanted and it was just a thing I needed to know. The other issue I found out is the price of the vehicle's went back up, so after rebate your still paying what they was last year, they are NO cheaper : I should have known

Well, you guys wouldn't listen.  Posts have been deleted - again.

This thread is closed.