Does anyone know what the average DAILY bag weight was for BASS or FLW last year?

(At these levels of competition, I'm asking overall, including ALL participants, not just winning bags).

In a club tournament, what would you guess to be the average (full season, single days) winning weight?

If you exclude the spawn, what is your guess for the two questions posed?

Most of the members of the club I belong to average between 1.6lbs to 2.3 lbs per fish. For New England waters this isn't that bad.

Our average weight per 5 fish per tournament is 10.59lbs.

This is a 35 man club with experience ranging from novice to 2 time Classic qualifier.

I will look into this.

For right now I'll guess that the average wieght will be somewhere around 8-9lbs for FLW or BASS.

As for a club's winning average:15-16 lbs.

Part of the problem you are going to have with this is the size of the fish in the fishery itself.  The bag weight at Amistaad was huge, same for the Classic last year in Florida, but at Table Rock I think they were bringing in limits of 10-12 pounds, the size of an average fish at the above two events.  Also, you factor in smallies and spotted bass and the size is going to be affected as well.  A buddy of mine fished a tournament in California and had a 5 bass limit of just under 40 pounds - he came in 4th, around here he would set a record that would probably never be broken.  Too many variables.

I'm thinking CJ is on the right path for FLW / BASS daily bag.

Our clubbies I'd guess 10-12 lbs.

I suspect the numbers aren't readily available because they are pretty low. When you move beyond the top money makers, the rest of the guys probably don't catch many keeper fish.

CJ's estimate is about what I would guess, too.

What myth is that?

I edited my post, the original came acrross too harsh. The "myth" I was referring to is that all the pros catch tons of fish. A lot of guys don't catch any most of the time. Like NASCAR, professional fishing is "top heavy."

I guess I don't get your point - in a tournament day the Pro (or club member or whoever) only has to have 5 bites to weigh in a limit.  I know in my experience, I have had days when I may have landed up to as many as 40 bass, but didn't bring in a limt because they were dinks.  Other days I may have a limit but no kicker and so I finish back in the pack.  Still other days, I may have a limit of 15" fish or better but still no "kicker" to put me over the top.  I think that happens a lot on both BASS and FLW tournaments as well -- TV isn't going to show you much footage of a guy standing in the boat with his line in the water or reelin in dinks.  Maybe that's the "myth" you were talking about.  But from what I recall from looking at the tournament statisitcs there are usually not a lot of guys that blank for the whole tournament and for those with a limit, you really can't know how many they culled to get their final weight.  BASS website gives the totals for each of their tournaments, don't know if they have them archived somewhere.  That might give you the 411 you are looking for.

I don't think there is a myth. Tournament fishing is the highest level of angling. Lots of days I could go catch small fish but chosse to try and win other times I sort little ones because I can't chosse my times or lakes I must perform.

The easy thing in the world is to get a live crawfish on a pt. and hook fish. I'm a huge supporter of angler being able to buy livebait and fish. With our new rules on livebait it's getting hard.

Garnet

RW,to average out a tournament trail would be a long,long,long process.FLW host 200 pros and 200 nonboaters at each qualifing event.I have heard and seen total weights from daily weigh-ins on the Stren and BFL events but they wouldn't be relavent beens they would differ from fisheries.I do however have a connection that may be able to get this info from the FLW headquarters.No promises,but I got a feeling FLW keeps this info somewhere.

I see where your going with this.That's a tough call.One thing I notice is that local competition can dominate a lake even at that level but there are those few that can duke it out anywhere anytime.

I know all pros don't catch tons of fish.There are guys at the pro level that shouldn't be there.

And,who know's?The greatest angler of all time probally never fished a tournament.I'll still check into that statistic.I'm courious myself.

Okay I have the average weight from anglers and co-anglers for the first and second day of the Stren series event on Sam Rayburn.I know you were wanting averages of the top level and a whole season but I think this shows a pretty good average and these averages were taken from a good lake at a good time(prespawn).These averages should be higher than what a whole season's daily weight average would be.

Day 1 average for both pros and co-anglers was 5.25lbs.

Day 2 "      "    "     "      "       "    "     "          "   6.71lbs.

When you move beyond the top money makers, the rest of the guys probably don't catch many keeper fish.

                                                                               (The majority of the "pros", aren't.) rw

.....and the reason for this is ---(RW,fill in the blank)-->.................................................

Being a "professional" implies compensation for one'e efforts.

It appears to me that the vast majority in this field "pay to play."

80% of them pay to play for one tournament.

It's a fact........if throw your hands in the air and run you will never hone your skills. Everbody gets to pay and play......... some play until they pay regular............ some just run.

Garnet

This also depends on what level of tournaments you are talking about. I read somewhere (another site?) that the pro that had the most money from sponsors last year was.... Skeet Reese. No kidding. To the tune of aprox. 600,000. Now what was 'ol Skeets last win, anyone remember? 2003 I think.

My point? Marketing is what gets a pro the mortgage payments in on time, not wins.

BFL or say, Heartland or Central Pro-Am is populated by a lot of middle aged dreamers with too much money, and young single still running around types and such.

RSBreth .... are you saying that BFL, Heartland, etc. anglers shouldn't be fishing ... they are just stroking their egos because they can afford the entry fee? I assume that you don't fish any of these events.

That's not what I am saying at all, sharks need something to prey on, and if someone fishes against some of the best guys on Heartland (say Wes Endicott or Kelly Power) they better be ready to get  schooled.

I have been trying to fish more tournaments, being a not quite middle age still running around with not enough money dreamer. ;D

I'm saying at lower levels, winning or showing well means everything. Lots of guys try for a year or two, then fall by the wayside.

Anyway, this is all off original topic.  RoadWarrior, you can look up weights of every event on the FLW tours, not as well at B.A.S.S.

Hey don't forget about us middle aged dreamers with no money.  Let's not discriminate here. LOL!

Hey don't forget about us middle aged dreamers with no money. Let's not discriminate here. LOL!

I gotta 2nd that!