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The front of a front ! Come on baby !

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Geeez, this weather is just KILLING me over here ! I'm on a semi-vacation, where I'm taking a couple extra weekdays off, to give me Mon-Fri off for fishing right now (still working weekends, as those are the worst days to fish anyway... crowds everywhere)

So this week, the rain and cold is due to move back in Monday evening (this evening) and basically will be here to screw me up, the rest of my fishing week :( :( :(

But hey now, as for today....

1) we have had 2 additional days of warm weather "since" my Friday trip that I stuck the DD, and had some other action as well.

2) the high clouds started coming in last night, which kept the night time temps up probably 10 degrees higher, than if it had been clear...

and 3) I will be fishing the front of a front, on a falling barometer ! Whooo Hooo !

Ya' know, fishing is fishing, and the only way to know for sure, is to just go for it ! Which you know I'm going to.

So anyway, I'm not saying, "I'm going to stick several monsters today"..... But I am saying, if ever there was a day it was most likely, it would be today ! .....then, whether or not that happens, if ever there was a Tues - Fri, that it was least likely, it would be this Tues - Fri :(

Come on baby ! I feel like I'm putting all my chips out on one big roll ! I've got one, big, fat chance, and its today ! Or else, forget it.

Please wish me a TON of luck ! I'd rather be lucky than good anyway :)

Peace,

Fish

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Give me pre-frontal conditions any time...kick bass dude ;)

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Good luck man. :)

As for me it has rained for 2 days straight and now the wind will be howling @ 20-25 tonight and all day tomorrow from the north. A little too much for my jonboat I'm afraid. SO much for my "pre-frontal conditions" this week. ::) >:(

Tear 'em up bro!  I hope the barometer drops off the charts for you.

Personally I LOVE pre frontal conditions with a nice overcast sky and little raindrops falling, but a nice sunny day before a front never hurt anyone. 

Please post your results when you get back from your trip and if you hit anything 8+ pounds, please get a good picture and put it up here.  I expect a 10+ from you Chris so GET 'ER DONE!

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Good luck man. :)

As for me it has rained for 2 days straight and now the wind will be howling @ 20-25 tonight and all day tomorrow from the north. A little too much for my jonboat I'm afraid. SO much for my "pre-frontal conditions" this week. ::) >:(

Buddy, you aint kiddin about the wind.  Talk about coming out of nowhere.  Calm yesterday, blowing 30 behind my house tonight...

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Hittin Castaic Lagoon tomorrow, real warm here for the last 3 days, but windy. Suppose to rain on Wed. & Thurs. so I prayin the fish decide to start biting.. :) BTW I'm fishing from shore.

Get em Chris.. 8-)

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Well, I'm kind of surprised.

I really thought it would make some difference, for better, or for worse. Instead, it just turned out to be kind of a ho-hum trip.

I caught some decent fish though. 12 Smallies, with 3 legit 4 lb'ers... two of those on the micro-light, so that was fun.

And one 7 lb Largemouth on the Hud. Oh, and I also caught the smallest fish of the day, a 2 lb Smallie, on an 8" Hud too ! It had one hook right through its nose ! Talk about hungry ! :) LOL

So, it was a decent trip, but no hogs.

And now, we have nothing but screwed up weather for at least the next 10 days :( :( :( :(

So much for my fishing vacation. I'm trying to go back to work for a few days now, until this garbage straitens out.

Peace,

Fish

Sounds pretty descent Chris.

As far as catching no BIG fish, my stupid opinion is it's partially or mostly because of the moon phase. 

The 28th was a full moon, which can be a tough time to catch the monsters.  From books I've read including In Pursuit of Giant Bass by Bill Murphy, the best BIG bass feeding activity does occur during full  moon cycles, but by far the best time in the cycle is during a 3/4 moon phase.

If you're fishing key outside structures a bunch, like i thought you did, Bill found that two or three days around a 3/4 waxing or 3/4 waning moon phase were by far the most consistant times of each month to intercept LARGE bass..

He goes on to say that if a 5 pounder is a lunker in the lake you fish and the lake record is 8 pounds, and you fished a structure the adult fish were using every day of the month, you probably would catch numbers of 3 to 5 pound bass any time there was a good pre frontal condition.  BUT you might catch several 6 pounders and one over 7 pounds during that same pre frontal condition on a 3/4 moon phase!

After 20 years or so of keeping records, Murphy says that 70% of all the 8 pound-plus bass he's caught were during full moon cycles and to get even more specific about 75% of all his 10 pound-plus bass were caught on either a 3/4 waxing or 3/4 waning moon phase. 

"A 3/4 moon phase represents a time when lunar energys stimulate a BIG bass to move away from their neutral holding positions and move to the outer edges of key structural features"

What happens during the full moon or even a day before or after the full moon, is that sometimes the BIG bass feed so heavily during the 3/4 moon phase, that by the time the full moon arrives, the BIG fish may have already gorged themselves.  Many times fishing a full moon can be like fishing the back side of a frontal system where the fish have already eaten and are satisfied. 

I swear I've noticed this fishing here in Colorado.  Most of my "off nights" are on or right near a full moon.  I've been commenting on this to my fishing buddies for 3 or 4 years now and they all thought I was nuts.  After reading Murphy's book, I'm now convinced it's my fishing buddies who are nuts.

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Hey Bass_Akwards, that doesn't sound crazy to me at all. In fact, I think their is probably a lot of truth to it.

But my standpoint on these kinds of things is this;

If one always waits until the moon phase its 'just right', and until the weather is 'just right', and the water temps are 'just right'...... he won't end up fishing very much, and he won't catch near as many fish in general, or even "BIG' fish, as the guy who just goes fishing whenever he can, regardless of conditions.

Don't get me wrong, it's fun and interesting to put together connections, and to be able to call good trips, or tough ones, but in the end, I try not to let these things talk me out of going fishing, whenever I can

This would be like, although I have found that a HUGE % of my double digit bass have been caught between 11 am, and 1 pm, I still like to be on the water for at least 8 or 10 hours.

I think it was Bob Crupi who said it, "But no matter what patterns he has learned, still, a bunch of his best catches, have been made, during times, places, and conditions, that were exceptions to the rule".

Hmmmm,

Peace,

Fish

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Welp, I didn't fair nearly as well as you did Chris. We saw smaller males up to about 4 lbs cruising in 4' to 10' of water near shore, however they din't want any part of what we were throwing, except for a couple boaters that got a couple of 2 lb'rs on roboworms, which I tried both t rigged and DS'd..

Anyway, sounds like you had a decent day, doesn't sound like a Ho Hum day to me.. :)

Amen to that Chris!  Unfortunately for my fiance I have the same attitude as you do.  Then again, one of the reasons I'm marrying her is because she thinks it's sexy that I go fishing 6 days/night a week from Ice out to Ice on.  EVEN ON THE FULL MOONS!

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