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I heard that KVD and some other pros use a particular snap that is supposedly very strong and reliable.  they use it so they change crankbaits quickly.

Anyone know the name of it?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

avid

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The Norman Speed Clip is absolutely the fastest and easiest way to attach a lure to fishing line. A circular design allows lures to run true. Speed Clip works great with braided lines. It takes only one hand to use.

A buddy in my fishing club told me about them.  I think you can get them from Bass Pro.

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yeah, i recently saw some speedclips and I am definately gonna pick some up next time I'm at BPS.

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Van Damm is not using Norman Speed Clips. He and others are using the Duolock Snaps. (Sp)

The problem with the Norman Speed Clips is, if you cast a crank bait and hit something hard like a tree, stump, rip rap, etc., the lure pops out of the clip.

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I am curious to hear everyone's input on this too. I have broke most of my fingers through various sports injuries and the less knots I have to tie, the better. However....do the clips effect the action of the crankbait?

supplemental question: are you guys using any type of quick snap on other baits such as spinnerbaits?

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I tried the Norman speed clips and did not like them at all.  Hard to open and couldn't get them back off a jig with a thick loop.  I prefer duolock, preferably a larger size with a little heavier gauge.  They are not perfect but the best I have seen or tried.

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the snaps will not hurt the action of a crankbait and with some baits, especially those without o rings, they can help.  i used to use them but got away from it when i learned to tie a loop knot, but honestly think that there is a lot to using the duolock snaps.  just remember that you still need to retie every so often.  The line will still get frayed and the knot will weaken after a few fish.

im kinda surprised that KVD or other pros would be using these though, with all of the rods and such they have on the deck.  i wonder if they are really doing it for quick changes or if it for action reasons.  

where did you hear about this avid or was it just through friends who know?  if there is an article or something id be interested.

matt

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I use and like the norman speed clips. They do take some getting used to. You have to squeeze them hard and straight for each lure change. They will not work on some lures that have a thick wire tie loop, like jigs and such. I have used them for many years and caught many nice fish and never had one open up or fail. I am not sure what KVD uses, but I would be interested to know. Most of the pros swear by their own hand tied knots, which they can tie perfect and much more quickly than I can.

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I waste time and tie everything directly to the bait.  I'm probably incorrect but, I can't see how any kind of snap/swivel that close to the bait would NOT effect it's action.  

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Cajun - never had any lure pop off the Norman speed clips. Me & my 2 friends have been using them for over 10 yrs. Originally I got input from Roland Martin who used them and thought they were good. rboat88h, once you start using them you'll get to a point where you won't have to squeeze the clip open to change cranks. Here's how we do it: hold the crank in your left hand, while holding the speed clip with your right hand, just apply a little pressure with the speed clip against the 0 ring which forces the speed clip open and the lure comes off. You can change a lure in just a few seconds without pinching the speed clip open. I hope that wasn't confusing, it will save your thumb & finger. Fishing Doug - we tried the clip on spinnerbaits & would suggest not to & continue tying the spinnerbait on. I've never used Duo lock snaps but did see them on the BPS web page. I'll stick with the Norman speed clips. You can find them at any bait shop, BPS or Cabela's.

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I tried snaps that look like those Duolock snaps, but my Crankbaits swam wherever they wanted.... And I'm sure I tuned them to swim straight....

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I heard that KVD and some other pros use a particular snap that is supposedly very strong and reliable. they use it so they change crankbaits quickly.

Anyone know the name of it?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

avid

If he hasnt changed brands he uses Berkley Crosslock Snaps.

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Randall seems pretty certain, but I also thought it was the Norman, I just couln't remember the name.

It came up a long time ago when some newbie asked asked about using snaps.

Being an old fart traditionalist I condemned them pretty harshly urging people to learn to tie knots.

someone came back with a quote from an interview with KVD saying he used snaps when he knew cranks were going to be a winning bait, but was searching for the right one.  He didn't have to waste time retying and found them to be reliable.  I'm not sure if he kept the snap on once having settled on a particular crankbait.

I thought it was the Norman, but that could be because alot of responders use them.  

Randall usually knows his stuff but then again he's from Georgia so his judgement must be questioned  8-)

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Avid, KVD uses the snaps because the bait will have more action with the snap than when just tied to the line. I sometimes fish a number five shad rap on twenty pound line over heavy grass. If I tie directly to the bait with 20 lb line the crankbait will not even wiggle at a medium retrieve speed but if I put a snap on the line it will still have close to its original action. KVD uses the Berkley because it won't come open like the Norman. I used the Norman's for years with no problems then one day I had two big fish jump and the snap came open twice with two different snaps so I havent used them since. I now use the Berkley snap in a number three (75lb test) since KVD suggested it to me a few years back while talking about crankbaits In BPS.

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Thanks Randall,

Surprised to hear the #3 is the one he uses.  Maybe it's because of the line size, but the #1 is rated at 30# and the smaller would seem less visible.  

Again, if your talking 25lb test line the larger snap would give more wiggle room.  If it's good enough for KVD and Randall, then I guess it's good enough for me.

I still like the idea of knot tying, but I when I "jerked" the lure to test a knot, I got a shooting pain up my arm.  With a snap, I won't have to re-tie as often.

Thanks again.   Say hi to SenkoLad and that scary looking guy you fish tournaments with.  ;) ;D

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If you have not a had a bait pop off using a speed clip, you're lucky.

I have and I know a lot of others who have as well.

They work, but they can come off.   The reason is that the speed clip gets bent slightly out of shape and allows the lures ring to work itself into the split of the clip.  It can then eventually come out.  When I had a few baits pop off, I started checking the clip every few casts and noticed this happening.  After comparing the faulty clip to a new one, the difference was obvious.  New clip.

I've switched back to snaps.

Another reason guys use snaps is because split rings can easily damage line.

Brad

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I still wont use them regardless of who uses them. That just will become your weakest link and ive seen KVD lose plenty of fish. Only two knots youll ever need for fishing lures are a Palomer or Rapala/Surgeons/Similar knot. I use Palomer knots exclusively though and have yet to lose a fish from a knot break. Paly knots have got to be the easyest most effective knot to tie a simple knot looped over your lure/hook/etc and your ready.

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i use sufix braid with berkley cross lock size 3 snaps for everything. these snaps will never fail!!!

berkleysnapsno3.jpg

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I appologize avid.  I have to admit I read your question wrong.  I only saw "snap" and "quickly".  The norman speed clip popped into my head.  

I myself do not use them.  I prefer cross lock snaps for my cranks, and topwater lures.  They hold great too.  

For knots I prefer the universal knot for most all my other lures.  I actually broke a hook before the knot gave way, or the 14lb line broke.  Go figure

And to put you at some ease avid, I can tie lots of different knots including the blood knot, rappala knot, improved cinch knot, and the one mentioned before, the uni knot.

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I use the duolock snaps on my personal crankbaits, on the baits I sell they are delivered with an oval split ring. The reason for the use of a snap, at least for me, is improved action of the crankbait and has nothing to do with the ability to tie knots.

Check out  Brian Bee's, website and see what he recommends for cranks. Brian is well known among pros for his baits.

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I use a ball bearing swivel with a coastlock to reduce line twist when using my spinning gear on all hardbaits. Works for me.

Chow

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The problem with the Norman Speed Clips is, if you cast a crank bait and hit something hard like a tree, stump, rip rap, etc., the lure pops out of the clip.

Yeah I thought the Norman Speed Clips were great when I 1st bought them, until I lost a couple lures because they just flipped off like what you're saying.  Now I just go back to the normal tying all the time.  :;)

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For you guys using the clips, are you clipping to the split ring (assuming there is one on the cranks you are using), or, are you removing the split ring and clipping directly to the eye on the crank?

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