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[Nodda4me]

Left my rods in the boat and went out in the afternoon and my line was all circling like crazy, is there any way to prevent that and make it cast straight line? I heard some people use something for the line(liquid?), what does that do?

[00 mod]

Couple options. The "liquid" you are refering to is KVD Line and Lure conditioner. It works well, and I use it every time I re-spool, and then maintenance as needed. Another trick is to take all tackle off of line, and with motor running, let it freespool out around 80yrds or so, and then ride with it for 30 seconds, and then reel back in. I suspect your problem is with a spinning reel and flouro, but it is just a guess!

Jeff

[Nodda4me]

Should I use a different kind of line? If so, which kind?

[Nodda4me]

The line I'm using is 10lbs Berkley Clear, like this, same thing, same green label except it's Clear not blue.

Should I switch to a 6 or 8 lb line? I think I'm using a Shimano 2500 spinning reel, kind of looks like this, but it has the easy cast switch thing that you pull with your index finger like this.

[dodgeguy]

all spinning reels do this.kvd conditioner helps.big game line is not for spinning reels.trilene xl is for spinning reels.flouro does this the most.you must spool it on in the same direction it comes off the filler spool.or you could solve the entire issue with braid.

[MichBassMan]

Ditto to what dodge guy said. In addition to that; when fishing with some baits they will spin when reeling them in. This will cause pretty bad line twist no matter what line or reel you use.
With both mono or flouro carbon lines it helps some to soak the filler spool in warm water prior to spooling it on reel. Also it helps a great deal if after you spool it on, open your bail and walk off most of the line.(about 70 yds) Tie the loose end to a tree or something rigid and go back to your rod an give the line a pretty good stretch for a bout 30 sec or so. Then reel it back on the spool with nothing on the end of the line but keep some tension on the line with your free hand while reeling. In my own personal opinion, its pretty hard to beat yozuri ultra soft #6 for spinning gear.

[Nodda4me]

So I want this, the 6 lb test 0.263?
http://www.basspro.c.../10205251/67393

I'll call up Gander Mountain and Walmart to see if they sell it.

Does it have good casting range?

[scrutch]

So I want this, the 6 lb test 0.263?
http://www.basspro.c.../10205251/67393

I'll call up Gander Mountain and Walmart to see if they sell it.

Does it have good casting range?

That's the stuff. Probably won't find it at wallyworld. I use it on my spinning gear. So far so good. It helps to watch what kind of lures you use on spinning gear. Weightless plastics and small inline spinners (mepps) are notorious for ADDING line twist. Be aware of it and add a swivel when needed.

Get some KVD line and lure. It's worth it. It relaxes the line, helps quite a bit with line twist. Don't let it freeze though, or you'll need to get a new bottle.

[Nodda4me]

I mainly use Rapala Shallow Shad Raps, would a swivel be recommended on that line? I'm also trying out Super Flukes and hopefully get some senkos to try later on.

[scrutch]

Rapalas are fine, but the flukes and senkos can be a little tricky if rigged weightless. Just watch for line twist on any lure. If its getting worse, the lure is most likely the culprit. Then add a swivel.

[Nodda4me]

Cool, thanks alot.

[SirSnookalot]

It's important to get the hook centered as much as possible to avoid a fluke spinning around, regardless of the line being used, I have little issue with any kind of line twist using flukes. I have totally wasted countless number of spools using braid (mono too, but mono can be trolled out) with certain types of lures and techniques, ball bearing swivels really don't help that much. Inline spinners will twist you up a lot, so will certain styles of spoons that rotate a lot like J spoons or drones, I don't recommend those for trolling. Spoons I use to avoid line twist would be like a Wahoo redfish spoon or sling jigs, they wobble back and forth and do not turn over and are just as effective. J-spoons are great in weedy areas, just be prepared to troll your mono out when needed and respool with fresh braid, it's just part of the game.
KVD L & L, it's ok and it works, but personally I saw no real advantage over soaking my line in warm water before spooling, and water is free and very available. I'm only concerned with getting my mono onto my reel spool because I will always troll it before my initial use. I also troll my mono out as the very last thing I do when fishing so the line is perfect for the next outing. That said I only use mono line when casting or trolling lures that constantly spin or drifting with bait, the action of the drift will spin that bait around too.

[trevor]

Another thing is to make sure that you are spooling the line on the right way. There is actually a wrong way to do it! Stick the spool on a pencil and have someone hold it while you spool up your reel. You want the line coming off the bottom of the spool, not the top. You should be able to find videos of this on youtube. Another thing you can do is manually flip your bail.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Check to sure the spool is not over-filled. Fill to about 1/8" below the spool lip or even with the bevel. If you decide to try braid, be sure to use backing or at least some tape to avoid slippage.

[SirSnookalot]

Another thing is to make sure that you are spooling the line on the right way. There is actually a wrong way to do it! Stick the spool on a pencil and have someone hold it while you spool up your reel. You want the line coming off the bottom of the spool, not the top. You should be able to find videos of this on youtube. Another thing you can do is manually flip your bail.

The line being wrapped around a fixed spool on a spinning reel, unlike a b/c "winching" line to a moving drum, is one of the causes of line twist. All manually closing the bail does is close the bail, the twist starts when cranking the handle. I close the bail by hand because I think it'e easier and more comfortable.