Mattlures

I dont disagree with you guys. It just kills me that twice now the record has been beaten but they did it wrong. Weakley IMO made no mistakes other that setting the hook a second late. Duclos on the other hand. All he had to do was keep the fish and have it certified. It just kills me! When Mike L breaks it evrything will be in order. For now 22.4 is still the mark to beat.

JB the problem with that picture is not the picture itself. The problem is its not Perry in the picture and nobody can authenticate it. It could be anybody in that pic and that fish could have been caught anywhare or even found floating. I asked an editor at bassmaster magazine about it and here is the response I got from bassmaster mag "Yes, there's an alleged pic of Perry's fish. As to its legitimacy, your guess is as good as mine!" I actualy want to believe it. I realy do. Than I could sleep at night If only it was Perry in the pic. For now I dondt think the picture has clearified anything. I will say that if it was Perry in the pic I would not dispute the pic itself or the size of the fish.

here is the response I got from bassmaster mag "Yes, there's an alleged pic of Perry's fish. As to its legitimacy, your guess is as good as mine!" I actualy want to believe it. I realy do. Than I could sleep at night :'( If only it was Perry in the pic. For now I dondt think the picture has clearified anything. I will say that if it was Perry in the pic I would not dispute the pic itself or the size of the fish.

Ok let me respond to Matt Fly who is confused. First off I never put these guys on a pedistall and called them the greatest anglers. I said Mike Long is the greatest he has caught more big bass than anybody on earth and has dominated the tournaments Big tounaments but not national ones. Dont you have your favorites? I think he is the best why should that bother you? Matt you said you saw videos of these guys. I dont think you have. I think you were referring to Butch Brown or somebody eles. I believe you are lumping all the trophy hunters into one person, or saying they are all the same. Thats like saying all tournament guys are as good or the same as KVD. To Say the spawn was over and thats why Mac has not come back.... Oh realy how do you know? That fish came back two days later but never got within 10 ft of the bed. Also a few weeks later Mike Long caught a 21.5lber (on a certified scale) out of the same lake ON A BED. I dont know if Mac will be back. Maybe after a year he will get the bug again. Maybe he is done. Like I said before you guys think they should have been prepaired. All they had to do is call the fish and game. Just so you know, I fish that lake too and I did not know they had a certified scale there. I also do not have my scale certified. I should but I dont. Matt your facts or opinions are a little off. I will agree about the scale not being certified. But like I said If they would have hooked it corectly they would have called DFG and it would be over. To say the scale was not accurate and the fish could be off by lbs is a stretch. Maybe an ounce or two but like I said they did test it. Your right about going to the middle of the lake for 10 minutes. They said they called their attorny and he told them to release the fish. Maybe it took him that long to go through the Fish and game rules and or the IGFA rules. I dont know. But seriously it was not a crime and I think I would have wanted think about for a bit and collect myself before I made the next move. The FACTS are they did the right thing and you guys are still attacking them. thats why I defend them. If I knew they did something wrong I would be on your side I dont care were they come from. Some of you will attack anything that doenst come from your state. Not me. Get over it already. I hope you and Rollo dont get mad over this. No need to. its a discussion. All I am trying to do is clear it up some. The reason I make my rounds with the same arguments is people have the same questions or misconceptions. I know a lot about this particular subject so I try and clairify it. Lets stay civil. The world record is Perry's The biggest bass ever caught is Weakley's The biggest should have been, was Duclos's

here is a link to dans post http://www.calfishing.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=5&topic_id=6578&mesg_id=6654&page= Natural. It is not that easy or cheap. The cost of rental boats there is rediculous. $30 a day plus a $5 permit. You cant bring your own boat. That fish also likes to live around the boat dock wich you are not alowed to fish off of. That fish is getting tougher to catch too. This time she waited for bad weather to spawn, which is why it was dificult to see clearly what was happening.

I am defending him because he did the right thing. PERIOD!! He never claimed he hooked it in the mouth. He never submitted it as a record. He did not keep the fish. The facts are he caught it, knew it wasnt right and released it. Thats why I defend him. I think it is shameful they way some people attack him for what they think he was thinking. I dont even personaly know him but I know other guys out here just like him. Every time sombody catches a big bass out here jealous people start making rediculous acusations. It is wrong. How would you like it? put your self in his shoes. I konw what happened I talked to the ranger personaly. I actualy saw the deserted bed the fish was caught on. The ranger watched their every move and he told me he could tell by their actions that they were never trying to snagg that fish and that the white jig was clearly on the fishes side and everybody knew it. Not one time did Mac or his friends say they caught it in the mouth. NOT ONCE! When I am wrong I admit it. can you?

I think its funny That you guys think he should have been prepaired. HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY BE PREPAIRED FOR THAT!!!!!!!!! In his wildest dreams I am sure he never thought that he could or would snag that fish. You guys just dont get it. If he had caught it corectly he would have called the fish and game and the would have certified everything. End of story! Rolo I find it discraceful that you can say that Mac had these intentions and the he would have done this or that. The facts are what he did do. You can only speculate what anybody was thinking. Those kids that were wittnesses were extremly bitter that they were beaten to the spot. Dont take their account as fact. Just so you guys know Mac has not returned to the lake. He used to fish it every day and now he has stopped. He is so sick that the fish came up foul hooked that he has stopped chasing it. Imagin spending just about every day on a lake for years knowing that the WR is in there and finaly getting your shot and then the fish comes up snagged. That crushed him. Maybe he was tempted for a moment to say he caught the fish corectly, after all he is human. But he never denied it. It wasnt like he changed his story after he realized the kids saw him. There were people watching his every move including one of the rangers who I spoke to. How would you like your character attacked after you did nothing wrong because somebody "thinks" they know what you were thinking. Pretty weak! Matt Fly the scale has been tested to be accurate. They tested it on Basscenter. It has not been certified to my knowledge but it is accurate. You also said you have seen video of these guys. Realy? Whare? When? I dont know of any such video of Mac jed or Mike (Mike Whinn) not Mike Long. I do agree that it is not the world record. It is however the largest bass ever caught. In my mind Paul Duclos is the WR holder.

I was already to admit I was wrong and that Perry's record is legit. But I after seeing that picture I still dont believe it. Why? The photo itself looks good but....................... Dan "LightnigRod" posted that exact photo last year when we had this debate on another board. That picture has not "just" surfaced. I am not sure what to think about it. I have been contacted by one of the editors of Bassmaster because they quoted me or something like that in that same issue and I asked him about the details of the photo. I will let you know what he says. I almost hope it is legit so my anger will go away but because I have seen the pic before I dont believe it. It looks like a 20lber that a guy caught with a kid in the pic. That pic just doesnt prove anything to me. If only it was Perry himself in the picture, then I would honestly admit I was wrong and except it. but d**n it! Now I have to continue being mad about the WR because I dont believe it.

A mold that I have not seen that you would sell a ton of would be a 4 or 5 in curly tail worm. Not a regular segmented one but like the Robo curly tail

If the list was current there would only be one bass from Florida and One bass from Georgia. There are a bunch of recent Cali bass that arent on that list. Mike Long has since added Two more to that list. A 19.2 and a 21.5

All you would have to do is offer diferent molds and you would have an instant market. Both Bob's and Delmarts make excelent molds but they have almost the same product line.

for temperary coloration you can use a sharpie permenant marker. The colors will bleed in a couple days but for on the spot uses they work good. plus you have a bunch of colors to choose from

I have never not got a bass to bite that was locked on the bed. They can all be caught. No such thing as uncatchable. I rarly spend more than 15 minutes on one fish and I am not talking about the males. Each fish is diferent. learn their body language and you can catch them. I do not teach people how to bed fish because too many people keep the big females and I need every advantage I can get out here. But believe me they can all be caught. I even cath most of the ones that are just hanging around the area. The only fish that I dont usualy catch are the ones that have hook marks in thier mouths. People think all baits are equal whwn it comes to bed fishing. not true. I use 2 baits, My bluegill and a simple jig. Thats it. The most important part of bedfishing is being able to read the fish. The longer you do it the more you will lern. as long as you are trying to lern.

It is very easy to do. the idea is to set up on a spot and disect it.

Triton Mike I know about it

I think Basswest blows the other mags away. lots of good articles with realy good tips and the pictures are just better than any other fishing magazine I have seen.

before you guys doubt his abilities read this http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/Byron_Velvick.html Byron is a friend of mine. He is not cocky and he is one of the nicest guys you could meet. he is on TV so he has to be enertaining. If not he would be boring. Cut him some slack. About Amistad. Byron went for broke. he threw big swimbaits and dumped a few big fish. Once he fell behind he had no choice but to stay with the big baits. It was his only chance to catch up and it didnt pay off. It has in the past and he owns the 3 day world record for a tournament bag on swimbaits. Give him some time to adjust to the rest of the country. Rojas sucked at first when he left So Cal. Now look at him.

The 19.7 came from Mission viejo today. The 21.5 came from........uh I forgot Actualy Mike has not officialy said but it was released. and you all know about the 25.1

The month of march has produced a 25.1 21.5 and a 19.7 thats prety impresive dont ya think

Yes A freind of mine caught it. 21.5 but I wont say wich lake. I will say it when he does. I dont know wich emails i havent answered but I believe you. Send them to my website. i am usualy pretty good about answering them. there are more big bass over 20lbs and a few over the WR that a few of us know about. Its only a matter of time. Also for the doubters, look at the picture of Mike Winn holding Macs bass. Look just under his hand and see the black spot. That is how we know its the same fish. Its name is Pokadot

21.5lbs 3/27/06 lake in southern Ca. BTW That fish is not to smart to be caught. It has been caught twice before this. It is however a very smart fish and has only been caught while spawning since it has been huge. The other two times it was not foul hooked. yes there were witnesses.

The Jig had no trailer, meaning NO TREBLE. I foul hook about 20 percent of my bed fish. Usualy its on the outside of the mouth but a few times it has been in the cheek and I have caught a couple by the dorsal. What happens is you see the fish inhale and you swing as the fish is exhailing the bait. The dorsal type snagg happens when the fish is facing away from youand your line is over its shoulder. You see the the fish go twards your bait. You see it flair its gill as it inhales. You might see your line tick but usualy at this point you are reasonaly sure the fish sucked it in. So you swing and you swing hard. Now sometimes the fish may not have even sucked it in but usualy it has. most foul hooking occures when yoou set the hook as the fish is spitting the bait. A jig will roll over and stick if swung hard and the dorsal is definatly a spot ware the hook will stick. Again look at the facts. They were using a jig, no trailer. They caught the fish at around 8 in the morning witch means they had only bee on it for an hour or two. They knew what that fish was. Those are the facts. by their actions of releasing the fish so quickly and not waiting for certification it is reasonable to assume they knew it wouldnt count. They knew it was their shot. I think it is absolutyabsurd to think Mac tried to snagg it. His best friend caught it before and Mike Long caught it before him. the fish would bite and probably did. He just misjudged nd the rest is history. Maybe if these guys were rookies then they might throw in the towel after an hour but be reasonable. Two of the three guys in that boat have caught bed fish that are listed in the top 25 of all time. They would not purposly blow their chance especialy with wittnesses watching them fish for her.

Roger and Dan I know some of the details about the other big fish caught but I cant say anything yet. Just be patient. All you other guys, well I knows its only my opinion but That fish is still alive. It has been spotted and is fine. They didnt take it to the middle of lake. They took it far enough away to talk in private. Then they went ack to the dock. the fish was caught very close to the dock and the total amount of traveling was very little. If the fish does dye it would probably be in the summer but as of right now its fine. It has been caught 3 times in 6 years so maybe in 08 when she's 27lbs. I have seen the pictures every time she has been caught and there is no doubt its the same fish. Thats why her name is Poka dot

Earthworm I know who Photoman is and even though it was close to being right, it was an april fools joke. Just one heck of a coincidence. But Photoman is in the know and hei recent posta are acurrate. I am in the know sometimes too

The fish will be fine. it has been caught twice before and both times it was handled way more than this time. The last time it was caught it weighed 22lbs 9oz but it took the fish and game several hours to get there and she had spilled some of her eggs so the oficail weight was 21lbs 11oz. Any ways to answer the question of has anybody seen it YES it hung around the same bed but was never much more than a big dark shadow. It was a zoo. Guys had their aquviews and were all over the place. The fish will probably spawn at night or do it deep. The recent events will not kill that fish if it dies its because it is old. Acording to Mike Long who took scale samples when he caught it it is 16-17 years old.