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Flechero. I dont feel right about answering buisiness questions on Glen's forum. I have no problem giving advise on how to use them or recomended gear though. Send me an email from my website and I will tell you how you can get my 6in Thanks Matt

Hey Bobo I have a bunch of reasons. how about this one. Ray Scot the founder of B.A.S.S. sent one of his reporters to do an interview with Perry and administer a lie detector test.......Perry only did the interveiw. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM I wonder why? Also No other bass from GA has even come close to 22.4lbs. The measurements dont add up. That fish was 4 inches longer than Jeds fish when he caught it and I think 2 1l2 inches fatter than Jeds fish. When Jed first weighed it it was 22.9lbs but later the oficail weight was 21lbs 11oz Perry measurements were MUCH larger and it only weighed 1/2 lb more. Perry's numbers dont add up. Perry's fishing partner was never located and to this day has not been located for comment. Perry changed his story on the bait he used. Perry wrote a letter to the creek chub bait co and told them he had a picture of the fish and would give it to them for some lures. That Picture has never bee made public......How come? Perry did win the contest with that fish pictured in which he claims it to be over 13lbs . Now I will agree with you that the fish looks bigger than 6 or even 8 but I doubt even you honestly believe its over 13lbs I personaly think its around 9lbs. These are the biggest reasons for me. There are actualy more good reasons but I think theese should suffice

Rattletrap your the one that seems to be hung up on the Cali GA thing. It seems to me the only reason your so adimate on defending The WR is because you are from there. Personaly I dont care were it comes from. I only hope that who ever cacthes it worked for it. I would be happy if it came from Mexico or Japan as long as it beats what I believe to be the biggest fraud in fishing history. OK what makes you so sure Perry even caught a 22.4

The bottom line is there is no proof of Perry's fish and there is no doubt of Macs fish. Ok now before you GA boys start replying be sure to read the rest. What I am saying is the fish itself not the tactics. Knowbody even knows if Perry's fish even existed. But everybody in the fishing world knows Mac caught his fish. Rattletrep can slam him any way he wants by using words like "snag masters" or "so called trophy hunters" but the facts are Mac caught the biggest bass in recorded history and there is no real proof of Perry's fish You know Perry's fish, if it existed is only the third largest bass. Duclos's bass was apoxamatly 24lbs and he had picture to back it up. unfortunatley he never weighed on a certified scale, or even a fishing scale.

Well the fish stayed there all sunday and it was there monday when they got there. It ws locked and it wasnt going anyware. You are correct in that the witnesses couldnt tell if it bit but they did see Mac Swing. I have personaly seen people snagg fish and I believe you can tell by thier actions if they are trying to snagg it or set the hook. It is also MY opinion that the fish was going to go. It was a matter of time. THE ONLY MISTAKE THEY MAD WAS FOUL HOOKING IT. the certified scale meant nothing because they knew it wouldnt count becuase of the foul hook. Not getting measurements ment nothing to them becuase they knew it wouldnt count. It wasnt till after the first day that the IGFA made a statement saying they would consider the catch so Mac decided to submit it. Acording to him he didnt have enough support so he decided to not submit the aplication. He did every thing right except hook the fish in the mouth. He knew it wouldnt count so he took a few pics weighed it and released it. Just like he should have. The facts are the only thing he did wrong was foul hook the fish period. yeah he kept it long enough to get some pics but not even the fish in game is going to fault him for that. The rest is just opinions and speculation. I believe I have laid it out pretty simple for all of you to understand but some people are so stubborn they will never accept anything if they have to admit they were wrong. BTW most of my information that I am getting is from MAc himself he has answered all of your "tough" questions in interviews on other sites. Glenn has told me not to link to this site specificaly so I will respect his wishes. Mac also did a radio interview tonight but I missed it. You could listen on the computor and you maybe able to download it but i am not sure. Google it and you will probably find these things

I am one of the greatest WR doubters but I have to disagree about that fish beeing 6lbs. However its no whare near 13. I would call it 8-9lbs. If you guys have studdied the facts about the WR you will see so many holes in it. BTW When the IGFA was formed they adopted some records that had already been around including Fied and Streams record of perry's bass. And to say that F&S is a credible source is a stretch. There were 3 or four other claims that F&S published up to 25lbers and each one blew up in their faces as there were proven to be frauds. These were all atempting to win the F&S prize. So they were trying it back than too. But the bigest thing for me is the measuremants. They simply do not add up to 22.4 I am not talking about a wieght calculator either. I am talking about common sence. With those numbers that fish should have been at least 25lbs. But back then there were no other documented giant fish to compare it to so Perry was at least kinda close when he guessed the measurments of his make believe fish

bobo again you are missing the main point. The fish was caught at 8 in the morning. They had all day. They knew they could get it to bite. they know how to get it to bite. It was not like they had a perfectly clear view. It was overcast and still a little dark outside the fish was in about 12ft. They could see it it but sometimes its very hard to tell exactly whats happening. When your on a big fish like that you cant sit on top of it. The idea is to be as far away as you can but still see it. If your too close the fish will spook. I think it is absolutly ridiculous to assume they tried to snagg it. They had another 9-10 hours left. They were on the fish it was their shot. The fish was obviously locked on the bed. It was just a matter of time. Mac has already caught a 19 and Jed has caught a 21 both on beds. They know how to fish them. They simply misjudged the bite and set the hook. Eye wittnesses said the fish had already bit and they missed it before he actualy hooked it. Plus the jig he was using was a single hook. no trailer or nothing. WHY do you guys want to try and paint thses gus into shady people. Their not!!!!!! They mistakenly foul hooked the fish and didnt know exactly what to do about it so they talked it over, brought the fish in, weighed it, took a couple pics and hoped it would come back.

When did I ever say any of my opinions are facts. I might have but didnt mean to. Show me

The stringer system has worked for 3 times now with that bass and it hasnt died from it yet. You can not bring your own boat into Dixon. They have tiny little rental boats and the cooler bairly fit and mad it dificult to move at all. I personaly have brought a huge cooler with me and it was a pain. Pl;us they needed to get in the boat and on that fish before anybody else . They didnt have time to be loading up excess stuff. Theese "rookies" have caught many huge fish and are anything buy rookies. They didnt need a cooler or a certified scale. Why? because had they hooked the fish in the mouth they would have waited at the lake for the DFG to come certify the catch. You guys make it seem like they were soooo unprepaired. I am sure that foul hooking or intentualy snagging the fish was never even considered. Thats why they didnt know exactly what to do once it happened. So what did they do? The right thing. They let it go and did not submit it. yet there are stiil some of you guys critsizing evry little detail and speculating what they talked about or what thier intentions were. If some incredibly hot girl wants to sleep with you and you are married. Are you a cheat for thinking about it or talking to one of you buddies about it? NO you are a cheat if you do it. I am not saying they even considered anything wrong but even if they did, In the end they still did the right thing. Put your self in Macs shoes. He knows the fish is there. he does all he can think of to be able to fish it. He knows its the record and has his attorny's # ready for when he catches it. He knows the process because he was there when Jed Caught it. You call Fish and game and they will come measure and weigh and certify the fish. Ok now you actualy catch the fish but you realize its been foul hooked. there are several wittness to this fact. Now what do you do. Up until this point they were prepaired, Now they dont know what to do. I doubt any of you guys would of at that moment either. So they talked about, called their atorney and decided to release the fish becuase they knew(or at least though) it would not count. and for you haters that said he couldnt make it bite so he snagged it. COME ON Mac caught the fish at 8 in the morning. it wasnt like he was running out of time. he had all day to fish that one fish and they werent going to leave it. He though the fish bit(and it might have) so he swung the rest is history.

Hey Soulaces your a little out dated. first of to get any money from the world record club you would have had to been a member. Oh and guess what? It was 7million but the key word is WAS. The last time Jed caught that same fish it weighed 22lbs 9oz. but by the time the ofiicials had got to the lake (wich was hours later) the fish had lost enough weight to be only 21.7. When this happend, the Insurance company that backed the WWBC gut scared and would not reniew the policy. There is no world record bass club!!!! So again i say there is no GARANTEED MONEY. Yes there could be alot of money in indorsments if the conditions are reight. I never said there wouldnt be or that the fish is not worth a mil. I said it not a given. It all comes down to maketability.

You guys must not read the whole posts. Just because sombody wants to get paid after wards doesnt mean thats what drives them. here is my point I want to catch the WR because I want to catch a bigger bass than anybody else period. That is my #1 reason. My #2 reason is I feel the current WR is a disgrace. I think it is the biggest frad in fishing history. Now see if you can understand this. I honestly would be happy with just those two thing and thats what drives me to throw big swimbaits all day insted of worm fishing. BUT of cource I would try to get paid if I caught it. Can you guys understand this. just because sombody tries to make some money AFTER the fact doesnt mean thats why they did it in the first place. Like I said before. Its about the recognition. I have fished Dixon many times and I have bed fished there. The big fish are spooky and just because the water is clear doesnt mean you can clearly see whats happening on the bed. There is wind chop and that particular day it was overcast and misty. here is another thing some of the haters fail to realize. You say they intentionaly snagged it and then realized people had seen them so the panicked..WRONG people were watching them the entire time they were fishing for that fish including the ranger and they new that. Mac made the fish bite a few times and missed. It is verry common for a bed fish to inhale and exhale a bait in less than a second. They rarly hold on to the bait for longer than a couple seconds. The fish went down and it looked like it bit (maybe it even did bite ad spit it) so Mac swung. With 6 witnesses watching his every move. He knew it was the WR there is no way he would intentionaly snag it. he believed that the foul hooking disqualified it so he released it. It is my opinion(not fact) that they were hoping it would go right back to the bed so they could catch it the right way. As of today it has not returned yet.

Oh you must mean how Perry lied? That is a fact too! You dont know these guys. You dont know what they said or what they were thinking. YOUR OPINION IS NOT FACT!!!!!!!! I dont know how much money they make but they get to fish pretty much every day. They drive VERY expensive cars and have high paying jobs. Is it so outrageouse to believ they like thier jobs. I dont doubt they were talking about what they should do in the middle of the lake. I think I would have been discussing all my options at that point too. Who knows maybe they were tempted to say they caught it the mouth, But guess what MR FACTS. They didnt. They did the right thing. they let the fish go and didnt even submit it for the record. Why dont you watch basscenter this saterday. they were their interviewing everybody including all the wittneses. You say they only let it go because people saw them foul hook it. Well they knew that the second the fish was in the net and everybody was watching. They knew it wasnt right for the record to be caught like that. It doesnt even matter what you say because it is the biggest bass ever caught.

Why dont you design your own bait and make your own molds. thats what I do. You will get much more satisfaction out of your own design than copying sombody elses. I am a little flattered that you would want a mold like my baits but I am much more bothered by it than flattered. Lurecraft does sell a hand poured bluegill mold. They also sell your standard swimbait molds.

Avid. Of cource I think there would be money to be made but you would still have to market it. My point was its not gauranteed and depending on who or how the fish was caught would make a big diference in how much money the catch was worth. Everybody always says a million. Well its posible under the right surcomstances but its also psoible it could be worth a lot less. My main point was pursuing the record is not about the money for these guys. I am hunting it too. I dont have the time to put into it so i will probably never even get close but at lease I am targeting it. The money is not why i want to catch it. I want to catch a bigger bass than anybody else. Thats why. Now after the fact is when the money factor might set in. I dont know what i would do or how I would act but I do know I would have to be squeeky clean and so did they and they did the right thing by releasing the fish. BTW when I said Mexican I meant Mexican, like sombody in Mexico catching the fish. If I was talking about someone hear in the states I would have said Hispanic. And one more thing Avid. If the record was caught on my bait I couldnt sell any more baits than I already am. I am backed up on my stores and I have no idea when I will ever get caught up. I think if that happened I would try and sell my company The clueless thing was about people thinking they are only in it for the money.

Thats just that guys opinion. The fish and fisherman would have to be marketable. They would also have to work for it. Imigin if some poor Mexican caught the fish, documented it properly and then ate it. Do you think he would get much money out of it? my point is the money is not guaranteed. Its assumed. I think way to many people focus on the whole money aspect of the WR . you guys probably think I am full of it but I would be completly happy being the recognized WR holder and not make any money from it. Would I try to make money from it? sure but that is only secondary. Its the TITLE I think people have seen too many scamers like the Trews and the lady that had a weight in the fishes belly. This is not the same. Mac wanted to catch the fish more than he wanted to get paid. He knew it was the record there is no way in hell he intentualy tried to snag it. and just for the record. These guys are not my freinds. I am not sure if I like them or not but i do respect them.

Ok you guys make a big deal about a $1000 offer. If they were unsportsman like they could have crowded Kyle and fished for the same fish but of cource they didnt. I would have offered him what ever money i had too. Every body talkes about the million dollar fish. SAYS WHO!!!!!!!!!!!!! you think people are going to come running with money in hand and start throwing it at them. they may get some indorsments but they would have to work very hard to get any whare near a million for it. Ok now here is the big one.......Pay atention..........Its not about the money. I dont care about the $1000 offer that means nothing. Its about prestige respect and clout. Who ever catches the biggest fish is king. Those guys work at casinos and make alot of money. They are not in it for the money its all about who catches the biggest bass. A lot of trophy hunters(myself included) dont fish tournaments. Our way of competition and reward is being known for the big fish we catch. That is the mindset. I wish you guys would leave the guy alone. He just caught the biggest bass in recorded history and let it go because he foul hooked it. Imagin how heartbreaking that must have been to see that fish come up with the jig outside the mouth. He knew what he was fishing for. He knew how to make it bite. He just misjudged it.

Here are the pics http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/outdoors/20060320-1251-bn20bass.html It was definatly caught and is legit. the problem is it was foul hooked. It probably wont be recognized but it IS the biggest bess ever caught period!!!

I agree with al of that but.... Ther is a nother time frame to consider. 10:pm-2:00Am has produced a lot of big bass for me. The rest of RW post is dead on.

Most calculators are good for small to big but are poor for realy huge bass. I am suprised that it was so close to your 14. once you get over 16 the caculators are usualy off by pounds not ounces

Wow I just realized I had a bunch of PM's. I apologize for taking so long to repsond. I might have responded before and now just responed twice. I am not sure. But for those of you who I just now answered you questions I am sorry. I have frogot to check the PM's :-[

I completly agree with you. Now if can use that info on the water you can catch big bass.

Only one of those is private. All the rest are posibly the most presured lakes in the country. The one "private" lake Mike fishes is Mission Viejo. He Is not a member. he only gets to go there as a guest. But just so you know that one "private lake " gets a ton of pressure. There are several guides and many members who beat it to death. This is not your typical "private" lake. But Mike also ownes most of the lake records from the public So Cal lakes. ALL records were caught on open days right there with the hundreds of other guys on the water. There is no shooting fish in a barrel, or bucks!

Notice I said documented not certifeid. There is a diference. There is a big long article that goes with the list. I do not about the florida bass but I can remember just about all the cali catche from the last 10 years. If you would like to read the entire article I would be happy to send it to you. It explains about the list. Those other two list are WAY outdated.

There have been 2 caught in the last couple years over 20 and a few more that were close. Here is the whole list. This list is comprised of documented fish over 16lbs and was printed in Bass West magazine. Table 1: All-Time Largest Documented Bass NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE MIKE LONG!!!!! also note that he has caught several more that are not on this list including a 19.2 and a 17.2 from 2005 and a 16 !/2 lber from a few weeks ago. Rank Pounds Location State Angler Date 1 22.25 Montgomery Lake Georgia George Perry 6/2/32 2 22.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/12/91 3 21.75 Lake Castaic California Mike Arujo 3/5/91 4 21.70 Dixon Reservoir California Jed Dickerson 5/31/03 5 21.19 Lake Casitas California Ray Easley 3/4/80 6 21.01 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 3/9/90 7 20.94 Lake Miramar California David Zimerlee 6/23/73 8 20.86 Lake Castaic California Leo Torres 2/4/90 9 20.75 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 4/27/01 10 20.25 Lake Hodges California Gene Dupras 5/30/85 10 20.25 Lake Miramar California Johnny Garduno 3/25/90 12 20.13 Big Fish Lake Florida Fritz Friebel May 1923 13 19.88 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2004 14 19.63 Lake Baccarac Mexico Bruce Knutsen 1/17/93 15 19.50 Lake Miramar California Keith Gunsauls 3/7/88 15 19.50 Lake Casitas California Randy Crabtree 4/9/02 15 19.50 Dixon Reservoir California Mac Weakley 5/20/03 18 19.40 Ikehara Dam Japan Kazuya Shimada 4/22/03 19 19.25 Lake Miramar California Chris Brandt 3/22/98 20 19.19 Lake Wohlford California Steve Beasley 2/3/86 20 19.19 Lake Morena California Ardon Hanline 2/17/87 22 19.06 Lake Miramar California Sandy DeFresco 3/14/88 23 19.04 Lake Castaic California Danny Kadota 1/8/89 24 19.03 Success Lake California Larry Kerns 1/27/01 25 19.00 Lake Tarpon Florida Riley Witt 6/21/61 26 18.94 Lake Isabella California Keith Harper April 1984 27 18.86 Lake Castaic California Danny Kadota 2/12/88 28 18.81 St. Johns River Florida Buddy Wright 4/12/87 28 18.81 Lake Isabella California Joe Weaver Feb. 1984 30 18.75 Lower Otay Lake California Bob Eberly 3/9/80 30 18.75 San Vicente Lake California James Steurgeon 2/26/81 30 18.75 Lake Castaic California Manny Arujo 1/25/91 30 18.75 Lake Kaweah California Nai Seathan 3/15/01 34 18.70 San Pablo California Victor Barfield 3/22/01 35 18.69 Lake Casitas California Bill Beckum 1/15/80 36 18.63 San Vicente California Doug Crandall 1979 37 18.62 Delta California Galen Jensen 2/10/02 38 18.56 San Vicente California Bobby Sandberg 1976 38 18.56 Lake Castaic California Bob Crupi 1/27/92 38 18.56 Don Pedro California Rod Martin 4/9/03 41 18.55 Lake Murray California Mike Long Dec. 2001 42 18.25 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2004 42 18.25 Lower Otay California Unknown March 1980 44 18.18 Lake Fork Texas Barry St. Clair 1/24/92 45 18.15 Natchez State Park Mississippi Unknown 12/31/92 46 18.13 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2003 46 18.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2002 48 18.10 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1998 48 18.10 Lake Murray California Mike Long Feb. 1999 50 18.00 Lake Perris California Will Steel 12/29/02 50 18.00 San Pablo California Rob Belloni 5/3/03 50 18.00 Lake Murray California Mike Long 2000 50 18.00 Mission Viejo California Mike Long 2002 54 17.95 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 1999 55 17.75 San Vicente California Unknown March, 1982 56 17.69 Lake Hodges California Unknown March, 1985 57 17.67 Lake Fork Texas Mark Stevenson 11/26/86 58 17.64 Lake Fork Texas Stan Moss 4/1/89 59 17.63 Lake Fork Texas Jerry New 8/28/90 60 17.50 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 60 17.50 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2001 60 17.50 San Vicente California Unknown March, 1979 63 17.25 Dixon Reservoir California Mike Long 2003 63 17.25 Lake Hodges California Unknown March, 1985 63 17.25 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 66 17.19 Lower Otay California Unknown Jan. 1985 67 17.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1998 67 17.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 69 17.11 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 1999 70 17.08 Lake Fork Texas Troy Coates 2/26/91 71 17.06 Lake Miramar California Mike Long 2000 71 17.06 San Vicente California Unknown Feb. 1979 73 17.05 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 2000 74 16.89 Lake Fork Texas Bryan Turner 2/8/93 75 16.88 Lower Otay California Unknown Feb. 1981 76 16.75 Lake Fork Texas Steve Trepkus 3/8/90 77 16.63 Lake Fork Texas Flo O'Brien 2/28/99 77 16.63 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 77 16.63 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 80 16.56 San Vicente California Unknown Jan. 1980 81 16.54 Lake Fork Texas Bill Reed 2/27/91 82 16.50 San Vicente California Unknown May, 1981 83 16.45 Lake Murray California Mike Long March, 2001 84 16.44 Lake Fork Texas Chris Adams 3/10/96 84 16.44 Lake Miramar California Unknown April 1973 86 16.41 Lake Murray California Mike Long March 2000 87 16.38 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 88 16.25 Lower Otay California Unknown Feb. 1982 88 16.25 San Vicente California Unknown Nov. 1979 88 16.25 San Vicente California Unknown March 1982 88 16.25 Sutherland California Mike Long April 2001 92 16.19 San Vicente California Unknown Jan. 1979 92 16.19 San Vicente California Unknown March 1981 94 16.13 Gibbons Creek Texas Troy Johnson 1/15/88 94 16.13 Sutherland California Unknown April 1989 94 16.13 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2000 97 16.12 Lake Fork Texas Jim Harrell 3/22/02 98 16.06 Lake Fork Texas Tom Hallum 3/9/88 98 16.06 Lake Hodges California Unknown April 1985 100 16.04 Lake Fork Texas Gasper Cardinale 2/29/92 101 16.02 Possum Kingdom Texas Scott Tongate 10/13/89 102 16.01 Caddo Texas John Merck 4/13/92 102 16.00 Cuyamaca California Mike Long 2002 102 16.00 Lake Poway California Mike Long 2002 102 16.00 Lake Poway California Mike Long 1999 102 16.00 Mission Viejo California Mike Long 2001

Triton Mike You are correct. Monte kept asking Mike about the other anglers trying to invent fueds and dig up dirt. Mike took him back to the dock. I know a lot of the guys he talks about in the book and I think Monte did a good job discribing them with the exception of the chapter"the San Diego zoo" where he makes Mike look kind bad. Other than that the book is a great read and I was unable to put it down until I finished it. It is a good insight to how obsessed these guys are.