It seems like a really strong Veritas presence here. I've heard a lot of good things about the ***, but it seems that everyone has been sold out of them. As far as the Ghost, I've seen to many reviews saying they have a bad grooving issue with the guides. Thank you guys for all the information. I hope this will help a lot of the anglers like me who are budget fishermen. I don't need tournament grade equipment to fish my small lakes and ponds. Thanks again guys!