Bass-Addict

Sorry should’ve specified hard swimbaits

Hard plastic/resin. How do you add lead sticky strips, and doesn’t increasing hook weight mean increasing the size?

Is lead wire wrapped around the hooks the only/best method? Is there any concern with lead poisoning or are most jighead manufacturers still using lead anyway?

Thanks ?? Thanks, I’ll check them out! Yeah I’ve been eyeing that Swimbait Jr., looks to fit the bill pretty perfectly but the reviews were less than stellar on TW. A few people talking about it being too stiff, not an issue you’ve found?

No I gotcha, I’m just wondering which is easier sitting down between overhead and side-casting/lobbing.

Thank you, these responses have all been very informative, I think I’m beginning to get a grasp on how this all works. Does casting from a seated position in a kayak change this dynamic, that is would I need more stiffness or backbone for overhead casting where side lobbing is more difficult?

Gotcha, thanks. I guess I just don’t quite understand the physics of it and am having trouble envisioning it. Wouldn’t a stiffer rod give me more leverage for casting heavier baits? I’d prefer not to be forced to “lob” them.

Oh ok, I thought you had said you got some advice from Trey!

I suppose you told him about my thread ?

It’s not working lol

Gotcha, it’s just tough to “try out” rods before buying them.

Most of these rods have lure ratings between 1-5 oz, which even with “moderate” action makes for a pretty stout stick. From what I’ve gathered on here you want the rod to be as moderate or forgiving as possible. I just really don’t understand how there can be so much conflicting information. I realize ratings vary greatly and there are no hard and fast rules but this seems to be all over the place. My initial intention was to beef up my rod from my current setup (7’4” HF Mojo) to something with a little more backbone. I found the Kistler KLX which seemed to fit this perfectly (7’6” XH MF) rated 1–4 oz. However, Trey insisted that was too stiff and to go with the Heavy MF, rated only 1-2 oz. Most of the baits I’m throwing are over 2 oz (6” Bull Shad, Chad Shad, Jackal Gantia.) I’m just not sure I understand how this wouldn’t benefit from a rod rated for these weights.

Lol you work for Kistler?

For sure. How would you compare the power rating or heaviness of the KLX to the St Croix Mojo bass?

Thanks, I thought that seemed to be the wise move too.

Just spoke with Trey Kistler, he strongly recommended I knock it down to a Heavy from an Extra Heavy power. I expressed my concern that the lure rating on the extra heavy (3/8-4 oz) appeared to be a better fit for the 2-2.5 oz swimbaits I would be throwing, but he insisted the heavy (3/8-2 oz) would be more than adequate and that the extra heavy was way too stiff, that I’d get much more parabolic bend in the heavy to help with casting and keeping fish pinned.

Why do you suppose the moderate action is the multi species rod, and what will the differences be for my personal application?

You know what would cheer me up? 55 degree water ?

You can say that again ?

Yeah I tried calling yesterday and couldn’t get through and would like to get my order in so it ships out first thing Monday.

I have narrowed it down to the Kistler KLX line. However, it appears they have two variations of the rod I landed on. Both 7’6” XH, only one says moderate and one says moderate Fast. The lure ratings are both identical (1-4 oz) but the general applications, although similar, have some minor differences. Both include swimbaits in these lists. This seems to be the perfect rod, however I know action varies greatly between brands. Can anyone who has used Kistler speak to their particular rating system and tell me which of these two would be ideal for my uses, throwing 1-3 oz hard swimbaits? Thanks and sorry so many posts I’m like a kid in a Candy store.

Does that same rating inaccuracy apply to their Champion line as well? Been wanting the 734C for my do everything but it’s rated fast and I’d be using it for plopper 90 a lot. Found a couple in my desired length, either of these decent quality/reputable brands?

Looks like that Fury has a fast action though, everyone’s saying I need moderate.

Huh And why wouldn’t moderate-fast do that? They are all almost 8’ long and full cork handles, horrible for kayak fishing.

What? I thought I wanted moderate fast so I could still throw big baits and drive a hookset