WetBlanket

Nothing to complain on my part, the Z2020 is my main 200 reel, with the IMZ as a new addition. But for Daiwa, A Zillion 200 would've been a massive cashcow in NA and Japan, and they messed it up. Not too surprised, though, Daiwa skipped a 200 size Ryoga for two generations in a row, knowing d**n well how popular a 200 and 300 Conquests are.

That would be a smart thing to do when you've already covered the 200 size. Taking 5 years to expand zillions, and aim for the nichest size is not a smart decision at all.

The 21 Zillion isn't ugly, it's just the used silver paint is as dull as it gets. Why would you reuse the same paint five years in, on a completely new reel? Kinda crazy if you ask me. A 200 size Zillion would find more use globally than a 150 one. That's all there is to it.

Yea, well, the fish aren't the ones paying money lol.

Well, the 200 is perfect for Stripers as well, so there's that. What i am saying is that 100 size can handle pretty much everything 150 can, so the 150 size has much less reason to exist when compared to the 200 size. If this was a new frame, a new NON UGLY color, 200 size with brass gears, this would be the most talked reel in 2026. Instead, this will be released, be well received cuz you know, it's a zillion so of course it will be good, but it won't be doing massive numbers sales wise, and i am not seeing it being popular either.

Sure. You can always improve looks, and have completely skipped that department. And the Zillion is five years old, which is pretty old at this point. I would assume they'd improve the frame like they improved it with the 24 steez that was based on the zillion. Nothing was done, not even a different paint color. Its just another 36mm spool from daiwa, there's nothing impressive there.

Everything you've mention there can be easily done on something like a zillion HD, steez A or a Bantam. Or could simply go to a 200 size, and handle 1-3oz swimbaits, and light duty musky/pike better.

I know the steez tw has aluminum gears. The Steez A i believe has brass gears, don't remember for sure.

I feel like this reel is pointless. The 100 size can do everything other than chunking baits over ~2.5oz. This one ain't gonna be hot for anything over 2.5oz either, so why is a 150 size needed? Should have released a 200 size so there's an option for a higher end Tatula 200. Daiwa new announcement is boring, and so are Shimanos.

Never tried one myself, but what i've noticed is that there are no really good looking ones compare to what was in production half a decade plus ago.

Why won't it work? It works perfectly fine on the plastic parts on daiwa SV spools, i see no reason why it wouldn't work here.

Couple of drop of liquid superglue, and you wouldn't know a crack was even there.

Indeed, and before that, i was NEVER ever suggesting anybody to bother with a Tatula. Only since 2024 that this series of reels became worthy in my book. I know that they were already popular prior to 2024, but all the older Tat generations were getting noisy and grindy so quickly that i just couldn't take any of them seriously.

If we're talking about the new Tat 200, they're unbeatable at that size. Replace bushings by quality bearings, and it'll feel like a quality $350+ reel.

Seaguar R18 in 14lb. It's alright.