Everything posted by WRB-2.0
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HBC-3 Amistad
November 14th will be the date for the upcoming Heavyweight Bass Classic series tournament where the biggest bass wins all; $50K http://www.heavyweightbassclassic.com/ Check out the web site for details, the first tournament was held at lake Casitas, the second at Clear lake, the upcoming third event at Amistad. The observers for this tournament get a free ride and particpate on all the free lure hand outs by the sponsors. WRB *fixed the link, forgot the www
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O2 Content
Find the thermocline layer and fish at that depth within a few feet. The thermocline is a cooler layer of water that is more dense than the warmer water above it. You can see the dense thermocline layer on a good sonar unit as a dark line or fuzzy zone by using the manual settings. You can also determine the life zone where the bass and baitfish prefer to use by metering the bait depth, if your lake has threadfin shad for example, as they tend to stay close to the thermocline layer. The thermocline layer will be about 70 to 75 degrees with the surface water in the 80's. If the lake is a power generation lake, there could be 2 thermocline layers, so check depth down to 35 feet or so for baitfish and bass. With surface water being in the 80's, avoid fishing areas near the surface during the day light period, unless the wind is creating wave action to aerate the surface water. Water at 80 degrees or more can't hold enough dissolved oxygen, DO, for bass to survive, so they go under the green weeds that produce DO and shade, or go deeper and just visit the upper hot water on short excursions. If your are in a tournament, be sure you have ice to cool the water to around 70 degrees. Do not recirculate the surface water, add C & R chemicals and h202, 3% over the counter hydrogen peroxide; 1/2 cup for 15 to 20 gallons, will aerate the live well water to proper DO levels. WRB
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Worm questions
I don't know the vintage of the Jimmy Houston worm article posted above, it's at least 20 years old. To fish plastic worms successfully you need to have the correct rod and line, the reel is only needed to cast and retrieve and plays a minor role in worm fishing. The most import termnal tackle is the worm hook size and style you are using. The hook style depends on the presentation and the type of cover you plan to fish. The hook size is selected for the worm diameter and presentation method; drop shot, split shot, Carolina, Texas, straight or wacky rigged. Can you let us know what type of rod, line and hook you are currently using? and what type of lake you normally fish. WRB
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"Mental Tournaments"...Does anyone else do this?? How do you practice????
Fishing agianst yourself is OK if win, it must be a bummer losing. I think the tournament influence of 5 fish limit becomes nearly everones goal when bass fishing, it's the yard stick so to speak. 5 keepers or 5 big bass for the heavest limit, what ever your personal goal may be. The problem is getting into a routine where you just try to catch 5 keepers first and then target a kicker. Why not take the advantage of having no clock, other than the basses time table for bitting and taget big bass when they are active. It is a mistake to target keepers when bigger bass are bitting. For example, first light fishing a top water lure tight to cover and catching a few school bass working the bait close to cover. Your chances for big bass may in fact be out over your shoulder in deeper water. Fishing a top water mid day with a light wind chop may in fact be more productive then Carolina fishing weed edges. To be a consistant tournament bass fisherman you need to learn to locate bass first and then target them. Running to spots you believe may have bass because it's your normal "milk run" routine rarely works consistantly, it is dependant on being at the right spot at the right time. If you take the pulse of the lake before you make your fisrt boat run, you may have the information to help you start at the right place at the right time. What you need to know; Seasonal period. Water temperature and clarity. Thermocline level. Depth the bait fish are at. Prey type the bass are targeting. Weather conditions expected during the outing. When you know the bass are targeting shad emerging for shoreline cover, then use the top water tight to cover presentation. However if the bass are on a crawdad bite, you may be better off targeting clay to rock transition areas where crawdads live, at the depth the bass are feeding, with crawdad mimicing lure like jigs, soft plastics and crankbaits bounced along the bottom at first light. Instead of catching a few keepers, you may catch a few big bass early and stay on a good bite all day. WRB PS; do the bass a favor and release them instead of keeping your best 5 in the livewell, it's only a mental excercise not a tournament.
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Deep Bass
14' is not necessarily deep in clear water, the 40 to 60 foot break is diffinately deep!. If you were sitting on top of the fish, they know you are up there and more than likely that shut them off. The fact that pan fish and game fish were milling around together also indicated the predators may not have been feeding at that time. Finding bass doesn't always equate to catching them, at that moment. Now that you know the spot well, you should be able to approach it quitely and stay 50 feet or so off the top of the structure and cover. If the lake has a threadfin shad population, suggest using shad colors; translucent smoke with purple/chartruese highlights and or silver/gold flakes in a soft plastic 4 1/2 to 6 in worm. Shad colored deep diving crank bait that runs 12 to 16 feet, spider type jig in the shad colors or a structure spoon in silver/gold. The combination of the above should trigger strikes in any clear water; 10 feet+ of depth of light. If the lake doesn't have shad, then go to the greens or purple with red/blue high lights to mimic batfish in general. WRB
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TRIVIA QUESTION !!! Need your help !
This is how you resolve a debate, with factual data. Vessel displacement doesn't mean the vessel weighs any less when floating in or water. Few can comprehend formulas, almost everyone can understand a practical expirement that demstrates theory. The airbladder nuetralizes the 5 lb bass so it doesn't sink at rest when at a specific depth, the bass still weighs 5 lbs. WRB. If the fly landed it would add it's weight, does the fly weigh the same in flight?
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TRIVIA QUESTION !!! Need your help !
This is a simple test you can do at home. Put one gallon of water in a bucket, water is 8 pounds plus the bucket weight. Next empty a 1 pint plastic drinking bottle to 1/2 full or 8 oz, replace and tighten the cap, equals 1/2 pound. Put the bucket with water onto a scale, add the 1/2 full bottle of water and read the weight change. Should go up by 1/2 pound, but will it? You added a 1/2 pound of mass, however it is bouyant mass and doesn't weigh a 1/2 pound suspended in water. WRB
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Any Casitas shore fisherman here?
There are some regulars that fish the shore at Casitas. The marina area, boat storage area, orchard point, model airplane area, fishtail cove and deep cat are all good. Most use big 10" to 12" Bonzai hand poured worms and wake type swimbaits for the big bass, or slip shot rigged 6" Roboworms for general bass fishing. Fish the lake regularly with a boat and the worm bite is fairly good now at 15 to 20 feet. WRB
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TRIVIA QUESTION !!! Need your help !
The container will not equal the sum of the 2 weights. The reason is the bass is hollow, has a bladder filled with gas, making the bass bouyant, weighing less in the water than out of the water. WRB
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Do bass have a 'home'?
I will stand by my statement that you can't rely on markings alone. In the case of giant bass, you have another factor to consider; a rare bass, such as Dottie/spottie. One black dot on the lower gill cover is unusual, not rare by itself, however combined with the basses size, a small lake and the fact was caught in the very same spawning cove 3 times over a 4 year period and not reportly caught anywhere else, is a combination of factors, not just markings to identify a specific bass. If the bass had unusual markings, was a big fish, plus a scar or injury, I would agree, markings alone is questionable, due to the fact several bass from the same brood could easily have the same unusual markings and be nearly identicle size. You missed my point totally and the reason for the response was to address the statement made about catching the same bass for 15 years, based on markings on the "pet" bass. You might catch the same bass from a small lake, however unlikely over a period of more than 4 years. The 15 year old "pet" bass would be a fingerling it's first year and grow until it reach whatever maximum weight it could achieve, then slowly lose weight unitl it died. The question in this post was will bass stay in the same arae; the answer is yes and they will return to the same area year after year, if the prey and conditions remain the same. WRB
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Do bass have a 'home'?
The oldest largemouth bass known was 17 years old, smallmouth 23 years old, as I recall, both in northern waters where bass live longer. There is always exceptions, however it takes about 5 years for a bass in California,Texas and Florida to reach 5 to 7 lbs and the vast majority live less than 12 years. You really can't go by markings alone, tags or fin clips are more reliable to identify a specific bass. The Dixon lake "spottie" 25 lb? bass may have been the same bass caught at least 3 times, could also have been several bass from the same parents that managed to survive and grow to giant size. Haven't had any feed back to spotties age, length or girth to date. getting off topic. I agree that you can catch the same bass in the same location, year after year, as I have done that several times, with tagged bass. WRB
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Do bass have a 'home'?
Bass location is based on availble prey (food) and proper water temperature/DO/PH levels. If there is food nearby and the water is comfortable, sancturary is availble, there isn't any reason for the bass to travel any great distance. The one excetption to all that is spawning, the bass will migrate to shallow protected water to spawn, food isn't a factor during the spawning period. Bass in a pond can't move too far, however still relocate seasonally. Bass in large reservoirs can and do migrate several miles during thier calendar year and return each year to the same or very similar location during the life cycle. Like everything in nature, bass are individuals and behavior isn't uniform, so you can only group them together as the majority tend to behave in a similar manner. WRB
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Night Fishing
Couple of basic facts about summer period bass. 1. The water is warmer, the weed growth is good, the available prey is abundant. 2. Bass are sight feeders, however also use thier lateral line and scent senses to help locate prey at night. 3. Summer period bass feed quickly and rest often because of the availabilty of easy meals. 4. Bass tend to locate out in deeper water cooler water during the hot day light periods and move into or up onto the shallower areas to feed at night. There is a daily migration from deeper to shallower and returning to deeper water as the intensity light changes. The basses feeding activity can be more active with the low light condiditions. It is very diffficult for bass catch prey in weeds at night, they can't see as well. This is why most baitfish hide in the weeds for sancturary at night. Bass roam the edges looking prey and stop at isolated ambush sites. At night it's usually a good tactic to work the enitre outside break line where isloted cover is available and shoreline brush, rock, sandy area's and boat docks. Use both reaction strike lures and slower bottom lures. Texas rigged plastic worms like 7" to 10" Berkely Back Power worms are very affective, Black/red DD15 crank baits and a buzzer should work nearly everywhere at night during the summer period. WRB
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fishing for bass offshore
What area in Ontario, Lake of The Woods? Ontario has some largemouth bass, mostly smallmouth. You may want to talk to the local tackle shops in your area to locate some smaller lakes or river area to drive and walk to. Walleyes, pike, musky and trout are the primary fish in that area, very few bass fisherman. Let us know the general area and type of bass you are fishing for. Also what type of tackle you are using, so the proper presentations can be suggested that will help you. WRB
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barometer question
Out west in our clear deep reservoirs LMB commonly stablize their airbladder to be nuetral bouyant at 30 to 35 feet and spend a great deal of time suspended at that depth. I believe this gives them the opportunity to make quick runs toward the surface to capture baitfish above them, like threadfin shad or case deeper baitfish by running down into deeper and pushing the cold water baitfish, like trout, towards the surface. Yes, thier airbladder's expand and contract within the 35 foot depth range, but it doesn't seem to hampered them greatly in catching prey and returning back to the 35 foot level to swallow it. I have never witnessed bass suspending any deeper than 35 feet try to run up to the suface, unless they were being hooked and pulled upwards by an angler. IMO, barometric pressure has lttle affect on the basses airbladder, it's to minute a pressure change. It takes several days for a bass to adjust the gas pressure within it's airbladder, that is why they make gradual depth level changes during normal migration seasonal periods, however as noted above , the bass can make quick runs up and down, they can't easily neutralize their bouyancy to suspend at a specific detph. Having caught lake trout 150 feet deep and deeper, you see the trout release air bubbles during the fight, so they can and do adjust to depth changes quickly, however bass can't release the gases and fast pressure changes affect both their eyes and airbladder, so they have limits to the depth changes they can make without sever damage to critical organs. During the cold water period you may hook a bass in 30 feet of water, however that bass may have been suspended at 50 or more feet and move up to catch your lure, then you pulled it to the surface and that is a 50+ foot depth change, not 30 and the basses airbladder extends out it's mouth and eye bulge out from the pressure change. WRB
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barometer question
It is not my intent to get into applied physics too deeply. Objects under water are compressed equally on all surfaces. If you blow up a ballon and submerge it about 35 feet, the ballon will shrink about 50% of it's diameter as the internal air is compressed by the pressure of close to 1 atmosphere or approximately 15 pounds per square inch. The ballon submerged 17 feet would have about 7 psi compressing it and will be about 75% of it's diameter. At 8 feet down, about 3 psi, the ballon is about 90% of it diameter. Bass feel the same pressure compressing thier airblader. Bass living at 35 foot depth, with neutral buoyancy in the airbladder at that depth, will experience 1 atmospher, 15 psi, pressure change, if it swims up to the surface. The basses airbladder expands and compresses exactly like the ballon. 1 atmosphere or 35 foot depth raise is about the limit a bass can tolerate without it's airbladder doubling in size. How does 100 millibars (1 bar is about 1 atmosphere) or about 1.5 psi or 2 feet of water pressure, adversely affect a bass? 100 millibars is equal to a big low pressure depression the size of a hurricane. I agree they can feel it, don't agree that barometric pressure alone has much impact on bass. The changing light with increasing cloud cover, increased flying insects associated with a low pressure system does increase bass activity. The passing cold front and increasing high pressure with bright sun and high winds, also can adversly affect bass living in water less than 5 feet deep. All the bass needs to do to reestablish it's airbladder nuetral bouyancy is; make a 1 1/2 foot depth change to compensate for 100 millibars of atmospheric pressure change. The affects of cold water, more than 10 degrees can be fatal to a bass. If a big storm lowers the surface temperature by 10 degrees quickly, the water near the original thermocline will be about equal to its original tmeperature, so the deeper bass are not affect by fast surface water temperature changes. Target the deeper bass and barometric changes have little affect. WRB
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fish weight guesstimation
There are several formula's kicking around to estimate the weight of largemouth bass based on length and girth measurements. Back in the 70's the only formula was the IGFA; length X girth X girth divided by 800 = pounds. The IGFA formula works OK for marlin and tuna, not very accurate for bass. I was logging all my big bass during the late 60's to early 70's and noted the weight, length and girth of about 100 big bass. The measurements were made with the bass laying flat on a cooler that had a yard stick fastened to it and a piece of fishing line to wrap around the bass to measure the girth, then release the bass. I tried to using th IFGA formula and it was not close to actual weights. Modifing the formula to length X length X girth divided by 1200 = weight in pounds worked very well. Since that time I have used the L X L X G /1200 = lbs formula for over 30 years and it works out within 5%, depending on how the measurements are made. Measure the fish laying flat, mouth closed from the tip of the closed mouth to the center of the tail flattened. Girth is measured around the widest area with the dorsal fin flattened. To evaluate a photo; use the fingers holding the bass as 3/4" for each finger width or 4 fingers slightly separated as 3 1/2" to ball park the fish being held length. If the bass is a Florida LMB the girth is usually about 90% of the length, a pre spawn bass could be nearly 95%. For northern LMB use 75% of the length for girth, pre spawn being about 80%. Example; 24" FLMB; 24 X 24 X 21.5 / 1200 =10.32 lbs. 24" NLMB; 24" X 24" X 18 / 1200 = 8.64 lbs. WRB
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Bass hitting deep water surface baitfish
It is difficult to cast a spinnerbait more than 30 yards, especially sitting in a canoe. Try a 1/2 oz Kastmaster in chrome with blue stripe or gold with green stripe. If any game fish is in the area working the bait school, you should be able to catch a few. WRB
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Bass hitting deep water surface baitfish
Several presetations work for schooling bass feeding on bait fish; Surface chuggers like a Splash-It, Pop-R or Chugbug. Cast to the front edge of the bait school and work it back. Jerk baits like LC Pointers or Smtihwick Rogue, jerked through the bait fish. Crank baits, Bomber model 6A in silver & white or similar smaller diving crank bait like a lipless rattle Trap. Spoons like Kastmaster or Crippled herring csat over the bait fish schools, let sink below them and use a jerk bait type retrieve. Underspins like Sworming Hornet or tail spins like Little George worked with a slow retrieve under the bait schools. 1/8 oz Dart head jig with 4" curl tail smoke color worms, cast into the schools and let fall, then stop & go retrieve. All the above will catch schooling bass. WRB
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barometer question
Depends on the seasonal period; fall & winter stable weather, light breeze, avoid cold fronts. Pre-spawn though summer; low pressure with cloudy, light wind and rain is very good as it stimulates the entire ecosystem. Low pressure with approaching thunder storms and heavy rain can be good fishing for a short time period, very dangerous to be out on the water. High pressure following the low pressure system creates high winds and generally tough fishing conditions in shallow zones, move out to deeper water structure less affected by the conditions. Stable weather is generally the rule during the summer period and the bass become more nocturnal feeders. The low pressure brings in clouds and light rain that can turn on feeding activity during the summer day light periods. WRB
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How to fish light cover?
Your are wasting your time trying to fish large weed flats from shore, unless you know where a deeper channel or weedline edges are. Look for clear areas or pockets where the weeds don't cover the area completely. If you manage to hook a good bass, you may not be able to land it in the grass. My suggestion; go down near the dam or marina and fish the deeper water with soft plastics like Texas or slip shot rigged worms. Fish the open weed bed pockets with a trick worm or frog. WRB
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All lakes have it
16,000 to 1 are good odd's that your definations are correct. WRB
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All lakes have it
Catt, it's your story, tell it anyway you want. Try to keep in mind some folks live outside of the state of Texas. WRB
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The Downside To Hawg Hunting
It takes no skill or experience to talk the talk, it's a different story altoghter the walk the walk. Big bass are relative to where you fish, in California a giant bass is considered anyhting over 15 lbs., a state record for the vast majority of states. What are the down sides to trophy bass fishing; family, friends and jobs and health become secondary. Catching bass is a sport to enjoy, catching big bass is every fishermans goal. Giving up everything to catch big bass is foolish and not needed. Take it from someone who has walked the walk, lost marriages, ticked off friends and has severe skin cancer; take the time to enjoy bass fishing. If you want help to catch a bass of a life time, just ask and I will be more than happy to help you reach that goal. WRB
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All lakes have it
CATT, your difinations differ from mine, but I agree that most bass fisherman spend too much time tied to the shoreline a casting distance way. Hump to me; underwater island, depending on the lake level. Humps become islands as the water pool lowers, regardless of ther size. Not all lakes have humps, some natural lakes are often feature less out in the basin, due to siltation filling in the bottom. Ridge to me is similar to ridges above the water, they just extend down under water; the crest of a point for example or a ridge line on any mountain or hill. I consider outside river bends that have erroded to be ledges. There isn't any standard terminolgy, it's very regional. Out west where I fish for example, the soil on both humps and ridges is mostly clay and rock, therefor little or no aquatic vegetaion grows on them. Isolated structure elements like rock piles, boulders, trees and brush are the primary targets located on or near the hump or ridges that tend to hold the bass. For that reason we tend to use jigs, drop shot. deep cranks and vertical structure spoons on the outside structure featrues. Carolina rigs used more on the flats where soil can support vegetation, near deeper breaks. WRB