I've never really had any success with shakey heads, t-rigs, c-rigs, or jigs. I think its because its below the water where i cant see it, so i dont fish it properly? i find having the patience for all of these hard also. any tips for fishing these types of lures?

This is how i learned:

Texas rigging.

1. Cast out (if from shore you should start casting parallel).

2. Start with the rod at 9 o'clock position.

3. Lift the rod up to about an 11 o'clock position

4. While the bait is falling, get ready to set the hook. I tend to get a bite on the fall more often.

5. Wait a few seconds, beacuse they can also bite off the bottom.

6. Repeat steps 2-5 back to the boat/shore.

7. Do it all over again.

I would also suggest a splitshot rig. i just learned and its amazing.

Texas rig a worm (without the weight) and place a splitshot above the worm about 18inches up. I like to just cast it out and let it sink all the way to the bottom and then just start reeling, really slowly.

First of all...without tge patience to learn tge technique, you'll never get it.  All those techniques are similar but worlds apart, if that makes sense.  I suggest the articles here and YouTube videos.  One thing to remember is that nomatter what you fish, you have to do what's comfortable for you.  The pros may talk textbook but they are walking contradictions.  The 9-11 positions may be textbook for bottom baits but watch some of those guys fish a deep worm...more like 10-2...sorry got of topic

First of all...without tge patience to learn tge technique, you'll never get it. All those techniques are similar but worlds apart, if that makes sense. I suggest the articles here and YouTube videos. One thing to remember is that nomatter what you fish, you have to do what's comfortable for you. The pros may talk textbook but they are walking contradictions. The 9-11 positions may be textbook for bottom baits but watch some of those guys fish a deep worm...more like 10-2...sorry got of topic

oh no, that made perfect sense, thank you!

I personally find out what each technique's presentation is intended to imitate, and then test them in a large tub of water until I nail down how I should manipulate my rod in order to get the desired action on the bait.

For instance, the shakey head is intended to imitate a feeding baitfish, with its head down, tail up and its head repeatedly hitting the lake floor like a baitfish pecking at food that has sunk to the bottom. This means you have to manipulate your jig in a way so that your worm or creature bait also has its tail up in the air wiggling, with the jig head hitting the bottom repeatedly in an erratic feeding motion. Try to achieve this in a bathtub full of water first - it may be different for everyone due to the shape of the jighead, weight of the bait, shape of the hook, stretch of the line, and more importantly, the height of the person and length of the rod.

This is how i learned:

Texas rigging.

1. Cast out (if from shore you should start casting parallel).

2. Start with the rod at 9 o'clock position.

3. Lift the rod up to about an 11 o'clock position

4. While the bait is falling, get ready to set the hook. I tend to get a bite on the fall more often.

5. Wait a few seconds, beacuse they can also bite off the bottom.

6. Repeat steps 2-5 back to the boat/shore.

7. Do it all over again.

I would also suggest a splitshot rig. i just learned and its amazing.

Texas rig a worm (without the weight) and place a splitshot above the worm about 18inches up. I like to just cast it out and let it sink all the way to the bottom and then just start reeling, really slowly.

thanks man, great tip!!

I personally find out what each technique's presentation is intended to imitate, and then test them in a large tub of water until I nail down how I should manipulate my rod in order to get the desired action on the bait.

For instance, the shakey head is intended to imitate a feeding baitfish, with its head down, tail up and its head repeatedly hitting the lake floor like a baitfish pecking at food that has sunk to the bottom. This means you have to manipulate your jig in a way so that your worm or creature bait also has its tail up in the air wiggling, with the jig head hitting the bottom repeatedly in an erratic feeding motion. Try to achieve this in a bathtub full of water first - it may be different for everyone due to the shape of the jighead, weight of the bait, shape of the hook, stretch of the line, and more importantly, the height of the person and length of the rod.

awesome! i will need  to try this sometime!

This might help:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1158577137

8-)