I've tried a few setups to cast crankbaits further - more specifically 10ft and deeper crank baits. I seem to be able to get squarebills to cast for "miles" but anything bigger and I can't get them to go as far as I'd like. I've tried to following setups:

 

- 7'11 Medium Cumara moderate taper - AG Winch - 10/12lb test.

 

- 7'2 MH Crucial fast taper. - AG Revo STX - 10/12lb test.

 

- 7'0 Falcon Bucoo moderate taper - 10/12lb test.

 

- Tried combinations of all the rods and reels...

 

Best success I've had for deep cranks has been on the 7'0 Falcon setup listed above. I've tried loading up on them more. Tired dropping to 10lb test. Just curious if y'all have anything I could try to launch them further. I've been having to run 14ft cranks the past weeks since there has literally been a shad-feeding-frenzy going on at my lake. 

 

Any advice is appreciated! 

I am very surprised the extra 11" of the Cumara isn't #1 for long distance.  What weights are you throwing?  A rod often has a sweet spot for a weight preference it likes.  It may be rated for 1/4-3/4 yet do best with a 3/8 or 1/2 oz. lure.  Although I own a Shimano Cumara and several Falcons, none are the models you listed so I can't be of any help there.

 

I am very curious as to what answers you will get from those with knowledge of those rods.  Although I have been using a couple different rods for crankbaits, I don't own any true crankbait rods.  I see a dedicated crankbait rod in my future.  I know that distance is important for this type of rod.

 

I've never used a Winch, but have a Gen 1 STX spooled with 40# Sufix Performance.  It will throw just as far as most of my reels.  This reel will bomb a 3/4 oz. spoon on a 7' MH Daiwa Jupiter rod (rated 1/4-1oz.).

That Cumara is a crankbait specific cumara. I don't know the weights of the cranks I'm throwing, but I figured the Cumara would be the best rod for casting dd-22's, but turns out it is the Falcon!?!?

i would think that the cumara would win in that situation. odd that a rod that's almost a foot shorter excels in distance. perhaps the 7' has a more moderate taper than the cumara. i don't use either of that brand of rods so i'm not sure. kind of basic advice but did you clean the spool bearings out on the winch? loosen up the brakes and knob on the reel and let it rip. when "bombing" lures, you'll get some loops on the line mid cast but if the bearings are running correctly /w the brakes on a long cast, the line will even itself out towards the end.

That Cumara is a crankbait specific cumara. I don't know the weights of the cranks I'm throwing, but I figured the Cumara would be the best rod for casting dd-22's, but turns out it is the Falcon!?!?

Norman Deep Diver 22 weighs 5/8 oz. according to the site I looked at.  I realize the Cumara is a crankbait specific rod.  All the more reason it should be number one for distance.

when "bombing" lures, you'll get some loops on the line mid cast but if the bearings are running correctly /w the brakes on a long cast, the line will even itself out towards the end.

 

I've found this to be true.  Also (for me anyway) a reel that has been cleaned and had the bearings upgraded often (but not always) performs better than one only cleaned.  I don't mean by this that it will throw further, only that I seem to have less problems with backlashes and overruns.  Couldn't say why this is so.  Maybe i don't have the cleaned only reels dialed in as well as they should be.  Also lure weight has a lot to do with it.  What I consider normal weight bass lures cast well with any reel...even factory stock with no cleaning.  The upgraded reels just do it with less effort.  It is only when I go below 1/4 oz. that these upgrades become important to me.

 

OP, Try using a reel with a heavier spool for those 5/8 oz. lures.  A Zillion would be a great choice.  Don't want to spend that much?  Pick up a used Trion.  Let DVT clean it.  I followed Mike's suggestion and put some 17# mono on mine after he sent it back.  It had come spooled with a light braid.  I also took his suggestion to use heavier lures than I had originally been using with the reel.  Mounted it on a 6'10" HF, tied on a 5/8 oz. topwater lure (don't have much to chose above 1/2 oz), and proceeded to amaze myself.  This reel now casts the proverbial mile with no backlashes or overruns.

 

EDIT:  12# will be replacing the 17# once it reaches the point where the reel needs new line.  Should improve casting distance.

i would think that the cumara would win in that situation. odd that a rod that's almost a foot shorter excels in distance. perhaps the 7' has a more moderate taper than the cumara. i don't use either of that brand of rods so i'm not sure. kind of basic advice but did you clean the spool bearings out on the winch? loosen up the brakes and knob on the reel and let it rip. when "bombing" lures, you'll get some loops on the line mid cast but if the bearings are running correctly /w the brakes on a long cast, the line will even itself out towards the end.

 

 

The Falcon is WAY more "limber" than the cumara.... on the falcon the backbone doesn't start until about 1/2 down the rod! The Cumara is definitely stiffer. Good call checking for loops. Getting the line spooled up perfectly without any loops or looseness has helped get me to the distance I'm at right now. I'm going to try some heavier lures this week and see what happens. Also might switch to some mono and see if that helps at all.

The Falcon is WAY more "limber" than the cumara.... on the falcon the backbone doesn't start until about 1/2 down the rod! The Cumara is definitely stiffer. Good call checking for loops. Getting the line spooled up perfectly without any loops or looseness has helped get me to the distance I'm at right now. I'm going to try some heavier lures this week and see what happens. Also might switch to some mono and see if that helps at all.

 

It is important to keep loops off the spool no matter what you are casting.  iabass8 was not referring to that.  He is saying that you will get loops (what I call 'fluffing') during the middle of the cast when "bombing", but these loops will disappear by the end of the cast if your reel is set up correctly.  If these loops didn't disappear, you would have overruns or backlashes at the end of the cast.

You may have better results if you temper your casting stroke a little. Muscling a cast usually has poor results be it backlash or decreased distance. Be sure the lure weight is optimum for the rod, probably somewhere in the mid range. Some baits have a weight in the body that will shift forward on the cast to gain some distance. A bait's weight and profile affect casting distance too. An object will only store enough energy to fly just so far matter how hard you throw it or how fast a reel spins.

It is important to keep loops off the spool no matter what you are casting.  iabass8 was not referring to that.  He is saying that you will get loops (what I call 'fluffing') during the middle of the cast when "bombing", but these loops will disappear by the end of the cast if your reel is set up correctly.  If these loops didn't disappear, you would have overruns or backlashes at the end of the cast.

 

I mis-understood what he was saying then. I'll check into it next few days... it usually is only happening for me on light lures like soft plastics.

I find that I cast farther using softer copolymer line. The stiffer the line the less distance I can cast. Fishing from shore the distance in casting matters.

Tried out casting a 1oz jig on my cucx711mh and I walked off 85 yards. Its the reaction cranking model. Not sure why you're not getting your desired distance. Perhaps the power and action slows it down. It was on a curado 200e7 supertuned and abec 9 hybrids.

#1 thing for distance seems to be length of the rod imho. And a extra fast taper that loaded properly gives that extra kick. Although not not ideal for deep cranking.

I've tried a few setups to cast crankbaits further - more specifically 10ft and deeper crank baits. I seem to be able to get squarebills to cast for "miles" but anything bigger and I can't get them to go as far as I'd like. I've tried to following setups:

 

- 7'11 Medium Cumara moderate taper - AG Winch - 10/12lb test.

 

- 7'2 MH Crucial fast taper. - AG Revo STX - 10/12lb test.

 

- 7'0 Falcon Bucoo moderate taper - 10/12lb test.

 

- Tried combinations of all the rods and reels...

 

Best success I've had for deep cranks has been on the 7'0 Falcon setup listed above. I've tried loading up on them more. Tired dropping to 10lb test. Just curious if y'all have anything I could try to launch them further. I've been having to run 14ft cranks the past weeks since there has literally been a shad-feeding-frenzy going on at my lake. 

 

Any advice is appreciated! 

 

Use thinner line, try with 30 lb braided ( around 6 lb test diameter )

You may have better results if you temper your casting stroke a little. Muscling a cast usually has poor results be it backlash or decreased distance. Be sure the lure weight is optimum for the rod, probably somewhere in the mid range. Some baits have a weight in the body that will shift forward on the cast to gain some distance. A bait's weight and profile affect casting distance too. An object will only store enough energy to fly just so far matter how hard you throw it or how fast a reel spins.

 

Mike is right about 'muscling' the cast.  Sometimes I do it.  I've found that backing off just a little on the power of the cast results in as much distance, but with far less tendency to backlash.