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St Croix Mojo Vs Premier

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I was just browsing through rods on TW today and i noticed the Premier and Mojo were around the same price point and got curious what the differences were. I noticed the use the same materials in their blank and that the premier uses a full cork handle while the Mojo uses split grips. So what is the big difference between the two? I am quite interested.

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You basically said it yourself, one has split grips and more of a modern appearance/components, the other is more traditional in appearance and components. The biggest difference is that the Premier is made here in the US while the Mojo is made in Mexico. Hope this helps.

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Rod color, country of origin, grips.

You can get the 'technique specific' mojos in some different blank types which you can't for the premiers

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I love my mojo for the price.At my shop i can buy an avid for 20-30 more than a premier and it is a great upgrade.

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I love my mojo for the price.At my shop i can buy an avid for 20-30 more than a premier and it is a great upgrade.

The difference between an avid and premier is huge and well worth the money IMO.
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I have a couple of Mojos, and 2 Premiers. I have found a buyer for my Mojos. Keeping the Premiers. 10/4 good buddy.

Hootie

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A couple factors people are ignoring are that Premiers only go up to 7' on the bass casting rods.  They also don't make any XF actions on the Premiers. Same blanks and parts for the most part, just assembled in different parts of the world.  As stated, Cabelas has a selection of Premiers with split grips but the choices are slim.

 

Premiers are great for all purpose rods.  Mojo series allows for more of a dialed in technique specific selection.  Both are fantastic rods for the money.  I suggest looking at St Croix's site and looking at the differences in selections.

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They are built on the same blank material, but they have different guides. Also, the Premier has a full grip as stated where as the Mojo has the split. Also, the Premiers are built to be more of an all around rod, where the Mojo's are a technique specific rod, so they will have different actions based on what technique they are being made for. The cost difference is mainly due to the fact that the Premiers are made in the US, up in my neck of the woods, where as the Mojo's are built in Mexico.

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The only similarity that is mentioned by St. Croix between the two is the SCII graphite.  The resins, scrim, etc. could be different as well.  I would guess one of those is different, when the mojo first came out it was the same price or like $10 more.  Now when production is moved to/set up in Mexico it has to have a reason to go there, if everything were truly the same between the two blanks it wouldn't make sense to send them over there for a $10 retail difference.   Has to be something different (aside from guides, and reel seat, etc). 

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The only similarity that is mentioned by St. Croix between the two is the SCII graphite.  The resins, scrim, etc. could be different as well.  I would guess one of those is different, when the mojo first came out it was the same price or like $10 more.  Now when production is moved to/set up in Mexico it has to have a reason to go there, if everything were truly the same between the two blanks it wouldn't make sense to send them over there for a $10 retail difference.   Has to be something different (aside from guides, and reel seat, etc). 

 

Thats because your paying for 'style'.   OP, I've spent upwards of $350 on a rod before, and find myself holding a standard Premier more often.

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The only similarity that is mentioned by St. Croix between the two is the SCII graphite.  The resins, scrim, etc. could be different as well.  I would guess one of those is different, when the mojo first came out it was the same price or like $10 more.  Now when production is moved to/set up in Mexico it has to have a reason to go there, if everything were truly the same between the two blanks it wouldn't make sense to send them over there for a $10 retail difference.   Has to be something different (aside from guides, and reel seat, etc). 

you are neglecting the expense of manufacturing the rod may, and probably is, significantly lower as well which would make the profit much higher.

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Thats because your paying for 'style'.   OP, I've spent upwards of $350 on a rod before, and find myself holding a standard Premier more often.

 

 

you are neglecting the expense of manufacturing the rod may, and probably is, significantly lower as well which would make the profit much higher.

 

Well that's exactly what I am saying though (probably not clearly, damned cold)...  IF everything is the same (scrim/resin/etc.) and the rods are produced with much cheaper labor, then they have to be shipped back to the US and take into account "styling upcharge"... The result is $10 more at retail (maybe 20-25 on the wholesale level) it doesn't seem worth it for them to do, especially with the notion of buy American vs Not.  Now if the resin and scrim were different and cheaper then it would make more sense (decreasing the production costs and increasing the margins). 

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I have read all the responses and find myself asking,"if the mojo and premier are the same because they both use the SCII graphite, then why aren't we also asking about the triumph?"

 

it is also SCII but 30-40$ cheaper. I do under stand that the triumph and premiers only go to 7' and also dont have any X-fast rods. But I ask why just get the triumph over both?

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I have read all the responses and find myself asking,"if the mojo and premier are the same because they both use the SCII graphite, then why aren't we also asking about the triumph?"

 

it is also SCII but 30-40$ cheaper. I do under stand that the triumph and premiers only go to 7' and also dont have any X-fast rods. But I ask why just get the triumph over both?

The guides are different

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Ive used a couple Triumphs and still have a 7' M in my line up. Its not a bad rod at all for the money. Good all purpose budget rod. Ive had it for almost 9 years i think.

Whatever rod you choose I think you'll be happy. St. Croix makes a great rod in all line ups they offer. Their customer service is top notch so never worry about that. Buy with confidence.

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I don't know about the Mojo side of things, but I stood in Cabela's for 10 minutes looking over the Triumph versus the Premier. The guides are the most noticeable difference. The Premier guides were glued on better/neater. The metal used in the guides also looked more stout. And finally the Triumph guides were positioned at more severe angle (instead of closer to perpendicular, they were at about 45 degree angles). I also liked the Made in USA-ness of the Premiers, so I bought one.

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I have a few triumphs, a few mojo's, and one premier. I fish the triumphs and mojo's a lot, they are great rods for the price, the premier doesnt get a lot of love, I would probabily not opt for the premier again and instead get the triumph or mojo. that being said the premier is a great rod just not when the others are more affordable. 

 

Mitch

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I have 1 Mojo and it is a 7' MH Fast casting rod.   I also have 4 Premiers in the same length and action.    9 times out of 10 I'll grab the Premier over the Mojo.   For whatever reason they feel much better to me. 

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The taper on the Premiers seems more precise to me, especially in the longer, heavier action rods. For instance, a 7'6" Heavy Mojo looks like a tree trunk compared to a similar Premier.

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I've owned the triumph, mojo and premier...I still have my two premiers!

 

the triumph and mojo were certainly good in their own rights but I just preferred the performance of the premier. it felt better in hand and has never let me down. great all around rod. the triumph guides were showing cracks in the glue after one year of use the mojo just never did anything for me. my cousin bought them and loves em but i just was never really impressed

 

my premier on the other hand just feels right, it sensitive enough, light enough, comfy enough, and it performs great, especially given its price!

 

honestly all three are good quality rods, i just liked the premier better.

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The taper on the Premiers seems more precise to me, especially in the longer, heavier action rods. For instance, a 7'6" Heavy Mojo looks like a tree trunk compared to a similar Premier.

They dont make a 76 heavy premier (for bass) . They only make the musky version and its the same size if not bigger than the mojo last time i held it.  That being said the heavy mojo is bigger than my 7 ft 9 heavy fenwick aetos but they are two different companies with different rod blanks. 

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