Bieng in the field of research I am in, i feel waking up breathing every day is an epic success. I have seen way too many children leave this earth too soon. Its all relative.

I made a post on this epic thread.

Some folks' funny bone is broken

I wonder why guys with such great marriages have the need to point it out?

But go ahead, hurl stones from your glass house. 

 

Yeah..I hate when they do that!

 

If the short-lived thrill of catching a big fish gives a man the right to point it out,

I'm pretty sure that a long & happy marriage gives that same man even greater bragging rights. 

He's not offended by your comic relief, don't be offended by his pride 

 

Roger

Epic humility.

Wait, the initial comment was that a divorce was an "epic success" & that is where the editorializing came in.   No one needs to have "been there, done that" to question the logic that such a heartbreaking experience would be considered something to brag about on an internet forum.  

 

"Glass houses" only applies if one believes that all successful marriages are actually shams, ready to fall apart at a moments notice.  I find that view to be quite cynical & not based in reality.

Oh please, spare me the "I'm innocent" bit. You commented after I posted, and I'm the only one that posted about "upgrading" to that point, so the comment was clearly directed at me. I didn't say anything about your marriage not did I poke fun at your failures. I merely poked fun at myself. If this a your epic success, then congrats. It didn't work out that way.

I'm not proud of my divorce because I believe I could have done more to "attempt" to make it work. But now that woman is my best friend and we have a GREAT friendship. Her husband and I are great friends and her new son calls me Uncle Justin. We still have our sons birthdays together and we do everything we can to make his life as normal as possible. So I won't say my divorce was necessarily a success, but the way we have handled it is by far the greatest accomplishment of my life.

Truth is my boys are my epic success, so far at least. I left my ex when my oldest was a baby, he stayed with me. A few years later, we tried again, and I let her come back. After a decade, and another son I had enough. The boys both stay with me, though my oldest has been spending a lot of time with his mother, which is good thing too. It's easier now that he's nearly an adult. Both boys have turned out great, and the oldest is shaping up to be the man I never could be - far better than I am or ever was.

_{My kids....awesome...awesome.  One is now in heaven.  And the other is moving to Tennessee and being around the grand kids.  Definitely a gift from above.}

With the national divorce rate hovering around 70%, when the number of divorces considered as a total. Breaks down as 50% for first, 63% second 77% for third. I think a cynical approach is more than healthy. We're a "microwave society" most live for instant gratification, very few possess the ability to stick with anything very long. The generation before mine (I'm 46) taught us by their actions that people are replaceable. Its only going to get worse not better. The traditional nuclear family is an endangered species, if u have one be thankful and keep your comments to yourself; you're definitely in the minority.

Pretty much every guy I know that's got a great marriage going, is on #2.

Yup, some guys are all in like me on my first marriage ( failed ) I gave it all.. "she" chose her own road, and she fell head first into a pit.. She's still in it too.. It most defiantly takes 2 people (sane & sober helps) to stay married.. I don't fret, I know it wasn't me,even she would tell you that.

I know this, when I got married, I meant for it to be till death do us part.. Key word " I " it's a brutal thing "divorce"

Epic success ==living to be 71 yrs old. [Dangerous jobs and riding Harleys most of my life]

Married 49 yrs ,never divorced,but I have seen some friends that fall into the success side of life by ridding themselves of the other one,usually losing about 75% of common assets.

Hmmm....   Is never getting married epic success?  

 

How about fishing epic success?  I caught my largest-ever fly rod striped bass (42.5") after it hit a Clouser that was dragging along the bottom on Brewster Flats while I was eating a sandwich for lunch.  And I finished the last couple of bites before I took the rod in both hands and started fighting the fish!  :-)

 

Tight lines,

Bob