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Local Angler In The Area Was Under Suspicion For Some Time , His Local Club Decided To Take Action , Prior To A Tournament They Observed Him Placing Fish Into A Holding Basket , They Removed The Basket and Marked The Fish , During The Weigh-In He Was Approached and Admitted Cheating , But Only In This Years Tournaments. I Haven't Heard If The Bass Club Will Try and Prosecute Or Not. He Was Winning Many Of The Tournaments Over The Years.  

 

Note: He Always Wanted To Fish Alone and He Was Seen Many Times At Night Spot Lighting Around Docks as/well Used A Underwater Camera Attached To A Pole , I'm Not 100% Sure On This , But He May Have Been Shocking The Fish At Night , I'll Try and Find This Info Out.

 

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Welp. Long arm of the law got 'im.

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Sounds like that doing all that **** is more work than actually going out and catching the fish lol 

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Fisherman lying? I refuse to believe it. Can't have nothing.

 

I don't know what would be the fun of winning a contest in which you cheated. The same reason I won't go to topless bars. I can't make myself believe something that I know isn't true.

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Local Angler In The Area Was Under Suspicion For Some Time , His Local Club Decided To Take Action , Prior To A Tournament They Observed Him Placing Fish Into A Holding Basket , They Removed The Basket and Marked The Fish , During The Weigh-In He Was Approached and Admitted Cheating , But Only In This Years Tournaments. I Haven't Heard If The Bass Club Will Try and Prosecute Or Not. He Was Winning Many Of The Tournaments Over The Years.  

 

Note: He Always Wanted To Fish Alone and He Was Seen Many Times At Night Spot Lighting Around Docks as/well Used A Underwater Camera Attached To A Pole , I'm Not 100% Sure On This , But He May Have Been Shocking The Fish At Night , I'll Try and Find This Info Out.

 

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They should have simply removed the basket, told the entire club and said nothing to him. When he came to the weigh-in empty handed, the look on his face, knowing someone knew but not who, would be adequate payback...then have him arrested.

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I can't believe that this is something that we have to worry about.  Well yeah I can but....  It happens a lot around here especially during the hard water season. It's exactly why I won't tournament/derby fish anymore.   Hope they prosecute him.

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You really only cheat yourself. You make your credibility look bad too.

He should be expelled from the club.

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I've seen cheaters....local catfish tournament

Hey F4B, wich tournaments? Hope its not ones i fish!

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Local Angler In The Area Was Under Suspicion For Some Time , His Local Club Decided To Take Action , Prior To A Tournament They Observed Him Placing Fish Into A Holding Basket , They Removed The Basket and Marked The Fish , During The Weigh-In He Was Approached and Admitted Cheating , But Only In This Years Tournaments. I Haven't Heard If The Bass Club Will Try and Prosecute Or Not. He Was Winning Many Of The Tournaments Over The Years.  

 

Note: He Always Wanted To Fish Alone and He Was Seen Many Times At Night Spot Lighting Around Docks as/well Used A Underwater Camera Attached To A Pole , I'm Not 100% Sure On This , But He May Have Been Shocking The Fish At Night , I'll Try and Find This Info Out.

 

Mike    

 

A few simple truths.

 

Anyone who decides to cheat, whether in a bass tournament or any other competition has decided that the prize exceeds the value of their name and reputation.  For some, the value they place on those things is quite low!

 

The easiest way to cheat is done when you think no one else is looking.  This is the best reason to never enter a competition that allows an individual to perform without a disinterested second party.

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Cheaters never win.

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  That's one of the reasons I got out of club fishing. Guys fighting all the time on who is doing what. And now even cheating. And they're playing for a few bucks and a handshake. Club fishing brings the baby out in to many people.

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What Lund said, a man or women who cheats to gain whatever perceived reward ( whatever it may be) couldn't care less about integrity of character or any other moral values.. It's a non factor in that persons reasoning..

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Arrest him?  Prosecute him? 

 

For what, violating club rules? 

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Arrest him?  Prosecute him? 

 

For what, violating club rules? 

 

Pretty sure they can get him for tampering with a sporting event, or maybe even theft???

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Pretty sure they can get him for tampering with a sporting event, or maybe even theft???

 

  It's defiantly theft and if it's over $1000 then it's grand theft.

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Maybe soap in a sock disciplinary measure by the club? Yea, that would work!!

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Yawn, even if it were the rate of one instance per week of it, it would have no bearing on whether I fish tournaments. It's such a non issue that guys that don't fish competitively make a huge deal out of.

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Pretty sure they can get him for tampering with a sporting event, or maybe even theft???

 

  It's defiantly theft and if it's over $1000 then it's grand theft.

 

 

Then maybe law enforcement should get involved when anyone cheats at a NASCAR race.  Or maybe when a pitcher doctors the ball, or Jerry Rice used too much stickum, or Brady for having the football deflated.

 

It was a club tournament for crying out loud.

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Then maybe law enforcement should get involved when anyone cheats at a NASCAR race.  Or maybe when a pitcher doctors the ball, or Jerry Rice used too much stickum, or Brady for having the football deflated.

 

It was a club tournament for crying out loud.

A- Those organizations have rules that have some pretty harsh consequences built in, and the capacity to enforce them. And when certain rules are broken, law enforcement absolutely can get involved.

B- The infractions you list would not necessarily have as great of an impact on the results as literally giving yourself points without anyone knowing it, such as planting fish somewhere.

C- The fact that it is a "club tournament" does not make the violation insignificant to those who have lost monetary prizes and whose tournament experiences, which they have paid good money and invested a great deal of time in, have been diminished.

D- What are you, this guy's attorney? He likely will deserve much worse than whatever he gets.

Edit: Of course, you can look no further than actual bass tournaments, where people across the country have been charged with felonies and misdemeanors; some have actually gone to jail; many have paid significant fines and lost fishing privileges. Granted, most of those tournaments were for bigger prizes, but there is precedent.

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Then maybe law enforcement should get involved when anyone cheats at a NASCAR race.  Or maybe when a pitcher doctors the ball, or Jerry Rice used too much stickum, or Brady for having the football deflated.

 

It was a club tournament for crying out loud.

Exactly. This is the type of propaganda purported and spread as news in order to discredit tournament fishing.

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A- Those organizations have rules that have some pretty harsh consequences built in, and the capacity to enforce them. And when certain rules are broken, law enforcement absolutely can get involved.

B- The infractions you list would not necessarily have as great of an impact on the results as literally giving yourself points without anyone knowing it, such as planting fish somewhere.

C- The fact that it is a "club tournament" does not make the violation insignificant to those who have lost monetary prizes and whose tournament experiences, which they have paid good money and invested a great deal of time in, have been diminished.

D- What are you, this guy's attorney? He likely will deserve much worse than whatever he gets.

Edit: Of course, you can look no further than actual bass tournaments, where people across the country have been charged with felonies and misdemeanors; some have actually gone to jail; many have paid significant fines and lost fishing privileges. Granted, most of those tournaments were for bigger prizes, but there is precedent.

Couldn't agree more!

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A- Those organizations have rules that have some pretty harsh consequences built in, and the capacity to enforce them. And when certain rules are broken, law enforcement absolutely can get involved.

B- The infractions you list would not necessarily have as great of an impact on the results as literally giving yourself points without anyone knowing it, such as planting fish somewhere.

C- The fact that it is a "club tournament" does not make the violation insignificant to those who have lost monetary prizes and whose tournament experiences, which they have paid good money and invested a great deal of time in, have been diminished.

D- What are you, this guy's attorney? He likely will deserve much worse than whatever he gets.

Edit: Of course, you can look no further than actual bass tournaments, where people across the country have been charged with felonies and misdemeanors; some have actually gone to jail; many have paid significant fines and lost fishing privileges. Granted, most of those tournaments were for bigger prizes, but there is precedent.

 

No, not the guy's attorney.  Just an old fisherman who doesn't waste much time fretting over things beyond my control, and to put it bluntly, quite insignificant in the overall scheme of things.

 

When I was a commercial lobsterman, I detested and still do detest those who violate the law by taking short lobsters and egg bearing lobsters.  Having said that, I never got as worked up over those who did take those lobsters as it appears some have over cheating to win a tournament in which they did not participate.

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