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Hey Guys, 

Firstly great website, love the wealth of knowledge here. So I wanted to ask your opinions on which rod would you rather use for Chatter Baits. Right now I fish my chatter baits on a 7' MH Fast action Abu Garcia Veracity, I use braided line with a flouro leader and a 6.6:1 reel. This rod fishes more like a heavy in my opinion, it is very stiff. After reading suggestions on this site I tried fishing a chatter bait on my Mod action Loomis E6X (845c CBR) and I can safely say I don't think its for me.

 

So I've narrowed it down to two rods:

1) G Loomis E6X 812c SBR 6'9" M Extra Fast 3/8oz.-1/2oz

2) G Loomis E6X 853c JWR 7'1" MH Extra Fast 3/16oz-5/8oz

 

I love my E6X for crank baits and would like to try one of their other rods in this line. Regardless of which one I pick I will be using braid with a flouro leader and a 7.3:1 reel. So what are your thoughts guys? 

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Try it with each?

 

Which one do you generally use for spinner baits?   Curious, only because that's the rod that I typically use.  6-10 and 7' MM or MF; but I don't see much difference.  Never tried a MH, I don't think

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Well, I'm going to have to order it from TW so I won't be able to test them before I buy. I would rather not have to ship it back either. The rod I use for spinner baits now is the 7ft MH Abu, but because of how stiff it is I am not sure if it is the best option for these style of baits. 

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I am quite sure a spinnerbait rod will do the trick if you have one. Just buy two spinnerbait rods and rig one with a chatterbait and one with a spinnerbait. I'm going to pick of the Denali Kovert spinnerbait rod for my chatterbaits. I handled it in the store the other day and it's pretty darn nice for the money.

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sorry...I misunderstood.  I thought you were trying to choose among rods you already own

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sorry...I misunderstood.  I thought you were trying to choose among rods you already own

 

No problem man. I was just asking between the two rods I listed which one would you choose and why is all. I appreciate the responses. 

 

 

I am quite sure a spinnerbait rod will do the trick if you have one. Just buy two spinnerbait rods and rig one with a chatterbait and one with a spinnerbait. I'm going to pick of the Denali Kovert spinnerbait rod for my chatterbaits. I handled it in the store the other day and it's pretty darn nice for the money.

 

So what length and action for your Denali are you choosing? 

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My recommendation for chatterbaits would be the same as for spinnerbaits: M or MH fast action (not too fast). Rod power based on size of bait and cover. The terms M / MH etc are subjective and change brand to brand so lust look at the numbers and see how it feels. I tried a slower action spinnerbait rod over the weekend and reminded myself why I don't like them. I don't precsribe to the "pulled the bait away from the fish" theory. If they want it, you'll know it. If they don't, you'll know that too and adjust accordingly. 

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My recommendation for chatterbaits would be the same as for spinnerbaits: M or MH fast action (not too fast). Rod power based on size of bait and cover. The terms M / MH etc are subjective and change brand to brand so lust look at the numbers and see how it feels. I tried a slower action spinnerbait rod over the weekend and reminded myself why I don't like them. I don't precsribe to the "pulled the bait away from the fish" theory. If they want it, you'll know it. If they don't, you'll know that too and adjust accordingly. 

 

So would you say for this application an extra fast action would be too fast? The only reason I ask is because the 6'9" is billed as a spinner bait rod and it has an extra fast action to it. 

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I would not use the E6X 853c JWR. I would consider the E6X 843 or 844 MBR depending on lure weight and cover.

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I use a 6'9 klx mh mod fast and an alx deputy 7'1 mh fast. The deputy has more power but is still on the slower side of a "fast" rod. The klx is a soft rod, but when you get into a fish You'll feel the power. I like both but prefer the deputy for chatterbaits, but the klx is a much nicer build. Just a few other rods to look at, I'd highly recommend both.

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The m 6'9" rod would be good for target casting docks and lay downs and naturally smaller baits (1/2oz chatterbait plus trailer will exceed rod rating)

The 7'1" will handle slightly larger chatterbaits and will cast a bit further and let you pick up line faster when fishing large grass flats.

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No problem man. I was just asking between the two rods I listed which one would you choose and why is all. I appreciate the responses. 

 

 

 

So what length and action for your Denali are you choosing?

The Denali Kovert spinnerbait rod is 6'9. Good length for distance and also good for throwing to targets up close.

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Brett Hite has proven his Chatterbait chops on bass fishing's biggest stage many times.

 

Here's his input on the subject.

 

A-Jay

 

http://www.bassmaster.com/video/chatterbait-tips-brett-hite#

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So would you say for this application an extra fast action would be too fast? The only reason I ask is because the 6'9" is billed as a spinner bait rod and it has an extra fast action to it. 

That technique specific stuff is all subjective. In fact the terms fast and extra fast are subjective themselves. I just don't feel like the fastest action you can find is critical to this application. I don't find a mod. action necessary to keep them hooked up as you're not dealing with trebel hooks and a big crankbait body being wipped around.   

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Brett Hite has proven his Chatterbait chops on bass fishing's biggest stage many times.

 

Here's his input on the subject.

 

A-Jay

 

http://www.bassmaster.com/video/chatterbait-tips-brett-hite#

Yea I've heard he uses the parabolic rods for chatter baits. I have been having more success with a regular action rod however. I guess its just not for me. I think I'm just gonna go with the 7'1" because I mostly use a chatter bait as a search bait and I'm trying to cover a lot of water. Also I need the higher lure rating for the Keitechs going on as a trailer.

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Yea I've heard he uses the parabolic rods for chatter baits. I have been having more success with a regular action rod however. I guess its just not for me. I think I'm just gonna go with the 7'1" because I mostly use a chatter bait as a search bait and I'm trying to cover a lot of water. Also I need the higher lure rating for the Keitechs going on as a trailer.

 

A very good compromise at least for me has been the KVD composite crankbait rod and braided line.

 

Offers easy to read sensitivity for a fouled bait & strike detection, solid hook ups and plenty of rod for whatever the job calls for.

 

A-Jay

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Glass and Mod action doesn't necessarily equal soft and whippy. The rod in that video doesn't sound like like your everyday off the rack deep cranking rod. What works for you is what really matters and only some experimenting will tell for sure.  Also, just to be accurate, "parabolic" rods bend in an even arch all the way into the handle. Some short standup salt rods work that way but no bass rods. What is mistakenly referred to as "parabolic" is really a Mod action. 

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I've been using my 6-8 mh ex rod, I do lose little fish once in a while do to hooksets but if a big one hits 9 out of 10 times they are coming to be CPR. I couldn't justify a new setup just for one bait lol.

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Glass and Mod action doesn't necessarily equal soft and whippy. The rod in that video doesn't sound like like your everyday off the rack deep cranking rod. What works for you is what really matters and only some experimenting will tell for sure.  Also, just to be accurate, "parabolic" rods bend in an even arch all the way into the handle. Some short standup salt rods work that way but no bass rods. What is mistakenly referred to as "parabolic" is really a Mod action. 

Ah didn't know that, thought the two terms were interchangeable. Thanks for the info

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