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Wondering if anyone has tried this braid to flouro or copoly line. Takes practice to do but seems strong .I have not fished it yet .

Definitely smaller dia knot .

Thank you

ED

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I tie the FG now. The knot flows through the rod guides with ease. Once you learn to tie it well you won't look back.

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Now you've done it!  Opened this topic again.  You'll have a bunch of folks arguing how hard it is to tie, how easy other knots are, etc etc etc.  I have learned to tie it reliably and efficiently and I'm sold.  I've fished it with micro guides and after fishing one so long that the leader was too short to use any more, the knot looked like I had just tied it.  (20# leader, 15# braid) Not only does it go through the guides very well, but it doesn't get damaged by the guides like other knots do.  I just tied a 50# flouro leader to 30 pound braid (yes, I know, wrong way for the pound tests, but I want the really tough leader) and it's a very small knot.  If that were a double uni it would be huge with 5 layers of 50 # flouro.

 

It's a great knot for line to line, and once you practice it a while, it's not difficult to tie.

 

This video has a technique that requires no pretensioning of the braid, no pulling against your rod jammed into the front of the boat, you tie it in your hands with both lines loose.  The keys are making sure you get the weave under then over then get the three stages of tightening the knot to the leader done patiently and correctly.  

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That's a great way I'll have to try that. Thanks for postingEd

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I used to use the Alberto knot. Since trying the FG knot, I really like it. The small diameter is great and the knot is strong. Little tricky to tie, but nothing a little practice can't take care of.

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Tried this knot several times. No luck .pulls right apart. Using 10 lb braid to 12 lb flourocarbon .tried couple diffrent ways also. They above video and like Bassressource video way .
Not sure what I'm doing wrong
Ed

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There are two keys to getting it right.  First, you have to make sure you keep the weaves correct.  I do this by reaching under the leader then going over alternately.  If you find that the tag end is all of a sudden on the other side of the leader when it shouldn't be, you've allowed the leader to move.  The braid tag end always ends up on the same (left) side of the leader, and the line end of of the braid always ends on the same (right) side of the leader.  If you find one on the wrong side, go back and get it right.  Second, the arranging the weaves by pulling on the two braid lines at the same time has to be good, strong, pulls, patiently "working" the weaves into a TIGHT, compact row.  You have to pull rather hard, and "work" it to arrange the weaves into that tight compact row.  The row gets almost hard. Then do 4 more, "work" it again, then the final 4, and again "work" it.  At that time you will have a single, tight, hard, row of weaves.  Do your first two half hitches without letting that row of weaves loosen.  Do the final half hitches and then wet the knot, and pull it using the two lines, not the tag ends.  If you've done the steps properly the row of weaves  will tighten on the line and you won't be able to move it.  But if the "working" of the weaves wasn't aggressive enough, leaving the weaves a little loose on the leader, it will slip.  If you've done it right and have a really tight knot that won't slip, take it apart and look at the leader.  The leader that was under the weaves will look "krinkled" because when the knot is tied right the braid actually embeds itself into the leader leaving it krinkled when the braid is removed.  Don't give up.  With practice you will get the technique down.  Pay particular attention to the two things I've focused on . 

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The line diameters should be at least somewhat close. 10lb braid is much, much smaller than 12lb flouro. If you want to use a 12 lb leader use 40-50lb braid. If you want to use 10lb braid, use a 6lb flouro leader. The knot isn't going to tie if the lines are of much different sizes.

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Thank you everybody for the tips . I'll keep working at it

Ed

Tight lines ! With FG knot

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It is not true that the diameters need to be close to the same. In fact one of the advantages is that they don't have to be.  The leader should be the larger diameter, of course, and the heavier the leader the easier it is to tie since the tag end of the leader stays put better.  I just tied a 50 pound FC leader and 30 pound power pro together and the knot holds perfectly.  Ed, focus on my tips in the Aug 20 post.

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I, too, have tried this a number of times with no result at all...ever. Watched vids, meditaded, even prayed...no luck with this knot. FG should stand for ForGetaboutit knot.

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Just get yourself a length of FC leader and a spool of braid, set yourself into you TV chair, look at the video over and over, keep trying, focus on working the weaves into a hard, tight, column of braid, don't give up, and within a couple days of this you will be tying the best line to line knot ever.    Believe me, once you get it, you get it.  And you'll have a line to line knot that will work with every combination of lines and guides. And it will be a piece of cake to tie.

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^^^Darnit Mick, you've got me wanting to try it again but I'm not sure if I'm mentally tough enough yet. I've been hurt before and I'm weak right now. I'm not sure if I want to tie a rebound knot right now.....

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Five pound braid - 6 pound fluorocarbon leader - 35" buffalo - 40 minute fight...

 

One FG knot holding everything together through it all.

 

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Took a while to consistently get the knot down right, but it is strong when you do. Still using Alberto if I need an on-the-water quick retie, but more and more going to the FG first when setting up outfits before a trip.

 

-T9

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After tying a couple more knots today, I think that the most likely source of problems with this knot is not "working" the weaves down hard into each other or not keeping them there.  If you make the three sets of weaves and work them down tightly you'll see no space between them, they will actually feel hard, and after you put the two half hitches on, that knot will not slip on the leader when you pull it tight.  If it slips down the leader the problem is either that you got lost on weaving or the weaves were not worked tight or held tight between your fingers while you went on to the next steps in the knot.  Focus there.

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I'm happy that this topic has come up several times since I first came across this knot. I tried it again, using both the untensioned (Aussie guy) approach and the tensioned braid while weaving the leader through. That has worked for me this time (tried it last time and failed miserably) once I figured out that I don't need to keep a ton of tension on the braid, but that it's very important to pull the leader taught and straight after each over and under wrap around the braid. Between that and making sure the weaves are stacked up tight against each other before the half hitches has worked wonders. I haven't tried tying it with really light line yet but it's on my to do list.

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