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Has Flouro changed much in the last 5 years?

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Hey all,

I've been strictly using mono (Sufix) for the past 5 years on my spinning rigs due to the easy casting, hassle-free nature of the line.  6-8 years ago, I tried many types of flouro, as it was all the rage, and still is today.  I found it to cast poorly, break off easily, and it was just not worth the extra money...at all.  I tried Seagaur, BPS, and many other brands in 8 pound test.  I went back to mono and haven't looked back since.  I mainly fish texas rigged senko's.....slowly.  The only issue I have with mono is the stretch, which causes me to lose fish sometimes.  So my question is as stated in the title...has flouro improved much in the last 5 years?  If so, in what ways?  I want to give it another try, but not if it's like I remember it to be.  Thanks in advance.

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i only like two types of flouro so if those are not ones you have tried then i would say yes they would be diffrent.  I run P-line 100% and sniper.  They are the best for me.  Seaguar invesx handles great but stretch is no better than mono.

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I tried fluoro, braid, and a few others but keep coming back to mono. My favorite fluoro was Cabela's brand however..that was probably 3 years ago.

If Big Game came in Clear Blue Fluorescent, I don't think I'd ever buy any other line. I'm using BG and XT right now.

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Maybe try some yo-zuri hybrid, handles well has good tensile strength.I use 12# on some baitcasters.

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I often wonder what people are doing different than me whenever they complain about how terrible FC is. I've ran Sniper, Shooter, Reaction, Assassin, InvisX, AbrasX, Tatsu, Pline 100%, Trilene 100%, and Gamma Edge. That's 10 different brands and I have never had any problems with any of them other than I found the Trilene 100% to be a little more prone to coiling than others. This is on both spinning and casting gear as well. I fish club tournaments, so my gear gets used and abused, and none of the above mentioned lines have ever given me terrible issues that would ever make me want to not use FC. 

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13 minutes ago, fishballer06 said:

I often wonder what people are doing different than me whenever they complain about how terrible FC is. I've ran Sniper, Shooter, Reaction, Assassin, InvisX, AbrasX, Tatsu, Pline 100%, Trilene 100%, and Gamma Edge. That's 10 different brands and I have never had any problems with any of them other than I found the Trilene 100% to be a little more prone to coiling than others. This is on both spinning and casting gear as well. I fish club tournaments, so my gear gets used and abused, and none of the above mentioned lines have ever given me terrible issues that would ever make me want to not use FC. 

When you have used mono for years and years and have gotten used to knot strengths of 97 to 98 percent it is a bit of a shock to drop down to the typical 70 percent knot strength of fluorocarbon.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontestpg6.html

Ever had a presentation tied on that you just do not have any faith in? That is how I feel with a baitcaster spooled with flouro after a "professional overrun". The line might be fine or it may be seriously compromised.

Like a lot of techniques and methods in fishing, what works really well for one angler does not mesh well with another. To each his own.

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For spinning reels of 2500 and 3000 size P Line Halo in 6 and 8 pound test works good. Just after you spool it drop the spool in warm water for a few minutes. After that it plays well. The stuff is tough as nails so much so you can not bite thru it when needed, and it's really abrasion resistant. Here on the  Upper Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac we have plenty of rebar, crab traps, old sunken barges, docks with lots of barnacles and other line destroying stuff and I have several friend using the Halo 6 and 8 pound test for all of their finesse worms, Sencos, Ned Rigs wacky rigging etc.

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Lines are constantly being improved, and that includes fluorocarbons. Within your 5 year time frame we now have double-structured fluorocarbons, as well as special formulations for both finesse and flipping presentations. A quick look at what has been released at ICAST the last year or two will give you a good idea.

-T9

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On 8/4/2016 at 9:33 PM, d**n Yankee said:

Maybe try some yo-zuri hybrid, handles well has good tensile strength.I use 12# on some baitcasters.

Tried it.  Seemed okay, but only on my casting rigs.  I found it too "springy' on spinning rigs and it wanted to jump off of the spool often.  Thanks for the reply.  

23 hours ago, fishballer06 said:

I often wonder what people are doing different than me whenever they complain about how terrible FC is. I've ran Sniper, Shooter, Reaction, Assassin, InvisX, AbrasX, Tatsu, Pline 100%, Trilene 100%, and Gamma Edge. That's 10 different brands and I have never had any problems with any of them other than I found the Trilene 100% to be a little more prone to coiling than others. This is on both spinning and casting gear as well. I fish club tournaments, so my gear gets used and abused, and none of the above mentioned lines have ever given me terrible issues that would ever make me want to not use FC. 

I wish I had the same results.  There's obviously other variables involved, but the breakoffs were for too often for me.  I generally use a polomar knot, which the flouro's I've tried didn't do well with at all.  I don't have knot strength issues with mono.  Of the many brands you've used, did you have one that you favored?  

22 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

For spinning reels of 2500 and 3000 size P Line Halo in 6 and 8 pound test works good. Just after you spool it drop the spool in warm water for a few minutes. After that it plays well. The stuff is tough as nails so much so you can not bite thru it when needed, and it's really abrasion resistant. Here on the  Upper Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac we have plenty of rebar, crab traps, old sunken barges, docks with lots of barnacles and other line destroying stuff and I have several friend using the Halo 6 and 8 pound test for all of their finesse worms, Sencos, Ned Rigs wacky rigging etc.

Thanks, fishnkamp.  I'll try the warm water trick when I give the flouro another go.  

23 hours ago, Turtle135 said:

When you have used mono for years and years and have gotten used to knot strengths of 97 to 98 percent it is a bit of a shock to drop down to the typical 70 percent knot strength of fluorocarbon.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontestpg6.html

Ever had a presentation tied on that you just do not have any faith in? That is how I feel with a baitcaster spooled with flouro after a "professional overrun". The line might be fine or it may be seriously compromised.

Like a lot of techniques and methods in fishing, what works really well for one angler does not mesh well with another. To each his own.

Couldn't agree more, Turtle.  Thanks for all of the replies everyone.  Well, if you have a preferred flouro that you really like, please let me know.  

22 hours ago, Team9nine said:

Lines are constantly being improved, and that includes fluorocarbons. Within your 5 year time frame we now have double-structured fluorocarbons, as well as special formulations for both finesse and flipping presentations. A quick look at what has been released at ICAST the last year or two will give you a good idea.

-T9

Thanks, Team9.  I'll do some research.  

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Tatsu has been great on my casting rigs. There is still a memory issue and I doubt that will ever fully go away however when I don't fish often, I use line conditioner, tie it to a tree branch and walk it off a few times and this drastically helps memory. Regardless of this, and the improvements, still do this day I use braid to flouro leader with everything except my crank baits. On those I use straight flouro purely to help with how deep my cranks dive. That's the only situation that flouro becomes worth the headachr over braid to me.

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7 hours ago, RushFan2112 said:

I generally use a polomar knot, which the flouro's I've tried didn't do well with at all.  I don't have knot strength issues with mono.  Of the many brands you've used, did you have one that you favored?  

I use primarily the San Diego jam, but I will use the Palomar for my worm hooks. I've heard the warm water trick helps with spinning reels. I just apply a good coat of KVD line conditioner the night before, and then again in the morning when I get to the ramp. 

Sunline Sniper is the best overall I have found. I buy it in the bulk 660 yard spools now, because I like it that much. I'll still buy other brands whenever I see it on sale for a good price, but the Sniper is the best overall I've found and it's only middle of the road as far as price goes. 

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More brands availble today then 5 years ago and prices have gone up!

Knot strength is still an issue with FC line, memory is another problem if you use FC over 10# test and a good line conditioner is a must.

Seagar was the first FC line on the market followed by Sunline, both offer top quality FC line.

Tom

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I've tried several types of Sunline flouro and while their very good lines , when you want the best flouro and it's attainable , there is only one choice - Toray .....  

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16 hours ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

I've tried several types of Sunline flouro and while their very good lines , when you want the best flouro and it's attainable , there is only one choice - Toray .....  

Toray is a processor that makes several types of fishing line including FC, Blackwater is the US distributor. I used Bass Hi Class for about 2 years until they increased price 3X by reducing spool size, now about equal to Seaguar Tatsu with a similar process.

Tom

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seaguar is not eaven  in the same class as Toray ...

to me , tatsu is more or less like a sinking copoly line , a lotta stretch , not what i look for in a flouro line .

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I find Tatsu to be exceptional, by far the best line I have ever fished.

 

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