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I'm still confused about what power/action I should get on an all around casting rod. I'm gonna be fishing anything from senkos to crankbaits in mostly open water and I could really use some help. Thanks

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Thats a tuff one. The problem is that crankbaits need a moderate action and senkos need a faster action. The reason I asked for the budget is because I think Megabass Orochi XX rods are very versatile. You CAN use one rod that will cover many techniques.

What kind of cranks do you have in mind? deep? mid? shallow?

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You can use a mod/fast-fast action rod for shallow/squarebill cranks and worms/senkos.

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From the techniques you described you would be best suited with 2 rods. 1) A medium or medium-heavy with either fast or extra fast action. 2) A medium heavy moderate to moderate fast action rod. In the Daiwa line that is considered regular action. Happy shopping.

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Depends. Generally, medium-MH is used for cranks and MH-H for senkos, worms, jigs. The lure rating of a rod will tell you a lot too. How about the new Daiwa Tatula XT rods?

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$99.99 and you should be able to get 10% off from a forum vendor.

The Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rods deliver tournament-proven performance at a price that won’t break the bank. Daiwa’s Zero G design makes the blanks incredibly lightweight, while also providing serious hook-setting power, and Daiwa’s exclusive HVF carbon blank technology delivers incredible sensitivity, as well as, optimum actions for a variety of techniques. The blanks also feature Daiwa’s X45 Bias graphite fiber construction that helps them resist twisting for less stress on the rod, greater strength, and increased hook-setting power.

Premium Fuji Aluminum Oxide Guides span each blank and offer serious durability as well as increased casting performance. Fuji ACS Reel Seats provide a comfortable base for your reel, while also remaining lightweight, and EVA split grip handles balance out each rod perfectly. Perfect for a wide range of bass fishing applications, the Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rods do it all for a great price.

-Zero G Design - lightweight with hook-setting power
-X45 bias graphite fiber construction
-HVF carbon construction
-Optimum action with rigidity and strength
-Fuji Aluminum Oxide Ring Guides
-Fuji ACS Reel Seats

Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rod 7' Medium

Its a fast action with lure ranges from 1/4oz-3/4oz so it will cover a lot.

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I really dont know, but I do know that Fenwick always made a nice rod. Your biggest issue is the dual purpose techniques. I feel the Japanese companies do a better job of making a more versatile rod. Maybe someone else can comment of the Fenwick.

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Well, that helps. They make dedicated cranking rods in that Daiwa Tatula XT rods too. Check TW

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Ok, then you gotta decide. I gave you a good option. Have you researched this anywhere else but here?

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11 hours ago, bigturtle said:

get a med/fast

H2O Express or All Star from Academy at $49.99-99.99

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if i had one rod it would be a MedHeavy power Fast action baitcast combo about 7' long.

my second rod would be Medium power Fast or Extra Fast action spinning combo about 7'.

i wouldnt get a moderate action rod unless it was dedicated for medium to deep diving crankbaits.  

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I like Stingray's suggestion.  I used a MF for crankbaits for quite awhile before getting a dedicated rod.  I've not used the XT model, but have some of the original Tatula rods.  A couple in the Regular action.  I'm one who thought that type of action was best suited for treble hooks.  These rods are changing my opinion.  I now feel a Med-Fast action is more versatile than that. The HMX rods at FFO are both MH-MF with a lure range of 1/4-1 1/4 oz. which is a nice range for all-around.  I've not used an HMX, but...unlike some makers such as Abu....I have found Fenwick rods to be pretty close to their ratings and often able to go just a little lower than the listing.  I don't normally try to push the high end on any rod.  Instead I use a heavier power rod.

My first choice in your situation would be the 7' MF Stingray suggested.  Especially if it is anywhere near as good as the original Tatulas.  I don't see a MH being needed in open water as long as a Medium will handle the weight lures you will be fishing.  Braid would give you more hooking power with the HMX rods for single hook applications.  My understanding is the Berkley Lightning rods have slower actions since they were designed for braid use.  A little less drag would help when fishing crankbaits and braid.  My brother-in-law uses only 40# PP and only spinning rods.  His two go to lures are a 10" unweighted ribbontail worm and an F-11 Rapala.  He uses cheap rods from Walmart.  I doubt any have a fast action.  He catches plenty of fish, and seldom loses any.

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Depending on what you have for a spinning rod, I'd go with either a M/F or MH/F for all around use. Pick the one that has ratings the closest to what you throw. Is it going to be perfect for everything? Nope, but it'll make due. If you're going to be fishing anything with treble hooks, just be sure to back the drag off considerably and that'll save you a few fish. Having a full arsenal or rods at your disposal is nice, and once you have that you won't want to go back to just one, but when you're building you make due with what you have until you can build things up. 

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