I was wondering if I was to be pitching jigs into lays downs, brush, and maybe even dragging a football jig along some rocks which line would be better braid or floutalcarbon? Also which one is more abrasive?

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18 minutes ago, It's a toad said:

I was wondering if I was to be pitching jigs into lays downs, brush, and maybe even dragging a football jig along some rocks which line would be better braid or floutalcarbon? Also which one is more abrasive?

 

Abrasive resistant?  Between those two...fluorocarbon.  A couple other good lines for that would be CXX and Platinum.

 

I'll take a stab at this.  There's no single answer for me. 

 

For wood, and docks with pilings, I like to use a leader with a reasonable break strength and braid as a mainline.  50# braid, 10# leader is pretty usual.  This was I can break off, without too much disturbance to the spot, retie, and keep fishing.  You have a small benefit if feeling the connection knot rub a branch, and know that you your 3' leader to go before your bait will hit the branch.  Makes it easier to guide your bait through the thick stuff, and once you're trained to the feeling, anything that is weird feeling, or bump/tick before, it's probably a fish.

 

For dragging through rocks and rip-rap, I like a strong, straight line, usually a co-polymer, like P-Line CXX. 12# or 15# is plenty thick enough to hold up after slight abrasion.  You could simplify and use the same setup listed above as well, using co-poly leader.  Heavy, 20# + fluorocarbon is oft recommended.  I just don't like the way heavy fluoro handles.

 

For straight up pads, weeds, water willow, and other assorted slop, straight braid.  I actually prefer the less smooth 4-carrier braids for this.  I feel like it cuts through the weeds better.  There's no leader connection to pick up weeds, and a couple of swift, short snaps of the rod tip usually clears the weeds.

 

In all cases, remember, you are not dragging or ripping your bait through the cover or rip-rip, you're guiding it.  Prey items don't rip through cover, they navigate it.  Keep that in mind for your retrieve.

For brush and trees I'll do braid.  For rocks flouro leader or pline/yozuri copoly.  12-17 lbs

2 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I'll take a stab at this.  There's no single answer for me. 

 

For wood, and docks with pilings, I like to use a leader with a reasonable break strength and braid as a mainline.  50# braid, 10# leader is pretty usual.  This was I can break off, without too much disturbance to the spot, retie, and keep fishing.  You have a small benefit if feeling the connection knot rub a branch, and know that you your 3' leader to go before your bait will hit the branch.  Makes it easier to guide your bait through the thick stuff, and once you're trained to the feeling, anything that is weird feeling, or bump/tick before, it's probably a fish.

 

For dragging through rocks and rip-rap, I like a strong, straight line, usually a co-polymer, like P-Line CXX. 12# or 15# is plenty thick enough to hold up after slight abrasion.  You could simplify and use the same setup listed above as well, using co-poly leader.  Heavy, 20# + fluorocarbon is oft recommended.  I just don't like the way heavy fluoro handles.

 

For straight up pads, weeds, water willow, and other assorted slop, straight braid.  I actually prefer the less smooth 4-carrier braids for this.  I feel like it cuts through the weeds better.  There's no leader connection to pick up weeds, and a couple of swift, short snaps of the rod tip usually clears the weeds.

 

In all cases, remember, you are not dragging or ripping your bait through the cover or rip-rip, you're guiding it.  Prey items don't rip through cover, they navigate it.  Keep that in mind for your retrieve.

This covers it really well. My go to is Yozuri Hybrid for the rocks, trees, docks, etc, but CXX is also very popular here for the same purpose.  For heavy vegetation, 85% of the time, straight braid is the ticket. 

 

 

 

Yep, you can sub in Yo-Zuri Hybrid, Excalibur, and a few other tough "mixed formula" lines.  I like CXX.  P-line invented the idea of mixing two nylons into one line.  Just like Seaguar invented Fluorocarbon line.  These companies have been doing their thing the longest.  I have a lot of trust in their products.  I'm not as picky about braid.  The sizes we use in bass fishing have break strengths so high, it makes up for any variance.

Big Game, but if it's real nasty then CXX.

Big game for everything lol im poor

I use 20# Shooter for what you describe.

 

 

 

Mike

 

Fluorocarbon. I would recommend Gamma Edge but it's expensive. Sunline shooter and Seaguar Abraz X are more afforadable and do the job well for fishing cover. The only time I use braid is for frogs and punching, or braid with a softer action, MH crank rod for soft buzzbait type lures like rage shads and Stanley Ribbits.

I stay away from braid around any kind of wood. Tends to dig into it and hang up easier. Fluoro for me....