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Ok so I have 2 metaniums (6.3&7.2) and 1000 dollars to spend. I've been fishing with crappy casting rods all my life. I need help choosing 2 rods that will cover all of my bass fishing needs. 

 

I want either GLX or preferably NRX's and I already have a stradic ci4 paired with a dobyns champion extreme HP for finesse. Figured yall could help me out with 2 Loomis model numbers to make this ordering process easier.

 

 I'd prefer anywhere from 6'6-7'0 and throwing anything from small -medium cranks ,topwater, jerkbaits ,T-rig , jigs , small swimbaits, the usual.  I hardly ever fish anything heavier than maybe a 3/4 ounce jig.  Any help would be appreciated !!!

 

 Also I have a decent heavy rod for throwing frogs but it's not really a staple in my fishing so I'm not too worried about the heavier side.   

 

Hopefully this is  in the right category. I'm pretty new to the high end gear so take it easy on me ?

 

Thanks !

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Welcome!

 

First I applaud your enthusiasm to upgrade your gear. Let me start of by saying cranks, topwater, jerkbaits and small swimbaits can be fished on $100 to $200 rod and you will be just fine.

 

You mentioned you have spinning rig already for the finesse stuff so there is outfit #1. Next you have a frogging/heavy cover outfit so there is #2. Now you said you want 2 Loomis rods. How about getting your self 3 total rods and you would have a 5 rod arsenal? If that is the case you have nearly endless options for your topwater/crank/jerkbait, swimbait rod. Something like a Dobyns 705 cb glass or graphite or the 704 if you don't fish very heavy baits. Any similar reaction bait rod would fish most of the apps just fine.

 

If you wanted to Loomis rods to cover a variety of apps from weightless plastics, to texas rigs, and jigs up to 3/4 oz total you will likely need two rods. I would suggest something like (1) 2 or maybe a 3 powered rod and (1) 4 powered rod. The jig and worm rods are going to much faster in action and better for jigs, plastics, and weightless baits, while the MBR rods are your super versatile rods with a taper and action suited from anything from small swimbaits, chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, topwater, and treble hook baits to jigs and plastics.

 

You could fish everything you listed on the MBR 842, 843 and 844 rods from the GLX line. I would get a hold of the folks at the TackleTrap and see what kind of deal they can offer. They often have deals not listed on the website plus the occasional rep sample or dealer demo rod which carries a full warranty. I bought my new MBR GLX from them for $340 shipped. If you can find a similar deal you can buy 3 GLX rods for around $1000 and cover about anything you need.

 

So If I was in your shoes I would likely pick these two rods to cover what you want:

 

1. GLX MRB 843 - This would be for weightless plastics, light jigs, swimjigs, chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, jerkbaits, cranks and topwater

 

2. NRX - 873 CRR - This rod is between the loomis and 3 and 4 powered rods despite it being listed as a 3 power. You can fish all your mid to heavy texas rigs and jigs from 3/8 to 3/4 oz. If you prefer a shorter rod maybe look at the 854. Many like the 894 which is a bit longer than you wanted but is the bees knees for jigs.

 

Regardless if you are set on GLX and NRX rods I would contact the TackleTrap and speak to Gary Wood. He knows his way around all things Loomis and would get you fixed up with the rods you want at a very nice price.

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Also you say crankbaits topwater jerkbaits can be fished on 100 dollar rods ? Then what's the top end recommended for ? I wanted top end for everything.  And to last. 

 

Also I'm so glad you recommended tackle trap I see they have demo rods for 25 percent off !! Can't beat that deal.  I will definitely be giving them a call. Thank you again.  

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Hard to go wrong with any loomis mbr 842, 843, and 844. Pick two of the three and I'm sure you'd be happy. 

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5 minutes ago, Drl453 said:

Also you say crankbaits topwater jerkbaits can be fished on 100 dollar rods ? Then what's the top end recommended for ? I wanted top end for everything.  And to last. 

First off anything can be fished on 100$ rods (and much less), but sensitivity isn't even helpful for topwater or jerkbaits, and is not important for cranks as long as you can still feel what you're banging it off of.  

 

Can't help you with the Loomis's, closest I've ever been to owning one is drooling on one in a tackle store.  You will be blown away by how light and sensitive they are when you pick one up.

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Thanks guys.  Can't wait to order 

12 minutes ago, EvanT123 said:

Hard to go wrong with any loomis mbr 842, 843, and 844. Pick two of the three and I'm sure you'd be happy. 

Is that nrx or glx??

 

12 minutes ago, EvanT123 said:

Hard to go wrong with any loomis mbr 842, 843, and 844. Pick two of the three and I'm sure you'd be happy. 

 

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IMX and they are all 78's. They work for me!

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MBRs all the way, I have an E6X and IMX.  My next one will be a 2 and 4 powered to complete my set.  These will be my tourney rods.  I really didn't believe the hype of the MBR series until I got my first.  They really are that versatile.

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I agree with what Kickerfish1 said 100% - that advice is right on track. My spinning set up is a Dobyns extreme hp 703.  My favorite rods are Gloomis and Megabass Orochi xx, and Dobyns that I have tried. 

You mention the other techniques and then interest in NRX. I have a NRX 854, 873, and 893, all are good but the 893 and 873 are my favorites by far.  All these rods I fish bottom contact techniques- soft plastics, jigs, shakeyhead, etc. The 893 is a great Texas rig and lighter jig rod. The 873 is a great 3/8 to 1/2 ounce plastics and jig rod as well as a Carolina Rig rod. I like the 854 for pitching around docks or throwing heavier shakeyheads with senko style baits. 

For top water and jerkbaits I have a Megabass Jerkbait Special rod that I think does a nice job.  I hear a lot about the Dobyns 704/705 for these applications also, the size of the baits you like to throw would narrow down which one.  I also have a Dobyns Champion 734 that is a very nice versatile rod for heavier top water, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, etc. 

I would recommend three things (1) watching Tacticalbassin high end combos utube video as there are come good suggestions in there, and (2) calling Tackletrap like Kickerfish1 suggested, (3) calling Dobyns Rod company and talking to them for suggestions. 

I enjoy the high end gear but make sure you give a lot of thought to it so you aren't stuck with a $400-$500 rod you don't enjoy fishing. 

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For CB, Top water and swimmers, I have e6x's and very happy.

GLX for jig and worms.

Next year will be 2 more glx or NRX for lighter jigs and worms.

 

No need to beyond e6x for CB, Top water and swimmers

 

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I would definitely talk to Gary at Tackle Trap. I bought my first NRX from him a few weeks ago and he was extremely helpful in helping me choose the right rod for what I was trying to do.

 

I would also recommend trying to get a rep sample because they cost about $100+ less.

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13 hours ago, Drl453 said:

Also you say crankbaits topwater jerkbaits can be fished on 100 dollar rods ? Then what's the top end recommended for ? I wanted top end for everything.  And to last. 

 

Also I'm so glad you recommended tackle trap I see they have demo rods for 25 percent off !! Can't beat that deal.  I will definitely be giving them a call. Thank you again.  

 

You are very welcome! The TackleTrap is a smaller shop in Alabama mainly specializing in mid to high end gear plus JDM/Megabass stuff. Certainly one of the more unique places out there not really like any other business I have found plus they offer reel cleaning service and various parts/products like Hedgehog Studios for example, not found on many if any tackle shops.

 

You listed quite a few techniques. I no you are wanting a few high end rods to cover these but sometimes it easier to spread out all the apps over 3 or 4 rods to really help you get things dialed in. I am not trying to suggest you need 10 or 20 rods but I would say if you bought one or two GLX/NRX and 1 or 2 less expensive rods you would like be able to fish everything much easier. The nice thing about Loomis and Dobyns is that next to the ratings of the rods they often times list specific baits or techniques they recommend that specific rod for. For example the Loomis GLX MBR 842 would be ideal for small cranks, jerkbaits and topwater baits from just under 1/4 to just over 3/8. The GLX 844 would be the rod you would want from 3/8 to up to 3/4. They can fish the same baits in all reality but the difference will be the weight of the baits the rod will cast and load without over stressing the rod.

 

You reaction bait rods can really be anything really. Something like a Fury, Sierra, or Champion would be just fine. You don't have to get a rod like a GLX or NRX to fish these kinds of baits/apps.

 

I am sure Gary at the TackleTrap would have some sound advice on a 2 or 3 rod assortment to take care of what you want in addition to your heavier casting and spinning rod in your collection already.

 

As a few other members have noted the Megabass Orichi XX rods are very nice and versatile as well. I am not sure if these are something you would consider but you could get 1 or two of these rods as well.

 

You may want to try an NRX for around $400, a GLX for around $340, and a Orichi XX for around $300. That would be around $1040 and you would have 3 high quality rods with that added element of versatility. These would pretty much set you up using the best of the best sort of gear if that is what you are wanting. I have rods from each of these 3 rod lines and have not intention of selling them as they are precisely what I was wanting.

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Unless you plan on selling your rods I wouldn't waste $$$ on off the self rods. Contact DVT site sponsor or Alex at ALX rods for a custom rod using the perfect rod blank, length, reel seat, guides, etc, for you.

Tom

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2 hours ago, WRB said:

Unless you plan on selling your rods I wouldn't waste $$$ on off the self rods. Contact DVT site sponsor or Alex at ALX rods for a custom rod using the perfect rod blank, length, reel seat, guides, etc, for you.

Tom

Interesting ... how's the warranty ??

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20 minutes ago, Drl453 said:

Interesting ... how's the warranty ??

Limited Life time warranty with ALX and 90 day trail period. Not sure about how DVT does his warranty?

I used Lamglas custom rods for 35 years, they stopped building custom bass rods about 6 years and suggested ALX, never heard of Alex before that. I was looking at NRX rods 5 years or so ago and didn't like thier $100 certificate to replace a rod under limited warranty. ALX has a NG+ blank that is equal to NRX IMO and fished 3 of his rods now for 5 years without any issues. Call both DVT and ALX (Alex) and ask what they have to offer, prices should be around $300 today for top quality bass rods with premium components.

Tom

 

 

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21 hours ago, Drl453 said:

Interesting ... how's the warranty ??

 

You only have warranty coverage against manufacturer defects. In other words if the blank fails that is one thing but if you break it in a car door, step on it, smash into the ground or high stick a fish into the boat with it and it breaks as a result of "your" doing, you are SOL.

 

Custom rods are scratch made sort of like your grandmothers cooking. Think about the work she might put in with the help of a few others preparing thanksgiving dinner. Then think of something like grilling burgers. If a neighbor comes in and steals all of the Thanksgiving fixings and turkey how much time and effort would it take to re-create the meal. If your burger fell down the grill grates into the coals and ash how easy would it be just to pay a little money for more hamburger and make another patty to grill? Point is customs take time and are not mass produced. There is no inventory or replacements lying around somewhere. A builder like DVT can make another rod for you but chances are he would have to work your build into other customers needs. Some parts can be salvaged but depending upon the damage and what the blank manufacturer will do you will be footing a good chunk of the cost to build another rod.

 

Custom builds have been discussed in depth if you want to search more on here for them. I have customs and while they are great rods and built for what I wanted them for I have to be careful not to break them since I would be out quite a bit to replace them. Keep in mind for a custom build you will be in the rod for $20-30 for shipping and whatever the builder charges for labor so that may be another $75-100 minimum. NRX or GLX blanks are not sold to builders to build on. Similar blanks will run you a good $150 -250 to reach that level. Add in guides, reel seat, trim pices, grips, etc and you have another $100 there. Higher end St Croix, Point Blank, Phenix, and Northfork blanks plus quality guides and everything else would put you well over $350 per rod but likely closer $400-500.

 

I also have an ALX rod. It is the Zolo B Maestro spinning rod. It is closer to a GLX/IMX blend then it is to a NRX in my hands. They are great rods and the taper is similar to the MBR Loomis rods.

 

Certainly lots of options to consider...

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I also really like Loomis "wild card" policy for their top tier rods.  Apparently they will give you one replacement no matter what happens.  Seems nice although I wonder if it's really that easy or if I'm missing some fine print restrictions.  

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Lot's of great options mentioned above, if I were you, check out the new GLoomis/Shimano Conquest rods coming out at ICAST this week.

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On 07/08/2017 at 7:09 PM, Drl453 said:

I also really like Loomis "wild card" policy for their top tier rods.  Apparently they will give you one replacement no matter what happens.  Seems nice although I wonder if it's really that easy or if I'm missing some fine print restrictions.  

They discontinued the wild card.

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39 minutes ago, Drl453 said:

No idea on prices yet ??

650-675 aka ouch

 

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