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Avid x 6’9 medium light extra fast spinning rod

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Just brought the avid x 6’9 medium light extra fast action was wondering if this rod would be good for rooster tails and smaller jerk and crank bait? Thanks for any info 

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It's a great rod!  I have it and use it primarily for drop shot and Ned rigging.  It would probably do well with presenting smaller to medium sized inline spinners and smaller poppers, but it really shines when it comes to presenting finesse plastics. It is a ML rod, so it would not be my choice for fishing crankbaits.

 

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1 hour ago, Turkey sandwich said:

It's a great rod!  I have it and use it primarily for drop shot and Ned rigging.  It would probably do well with presenting smaller to medium sized inline spinners and smaller poppers, but it really shines when it comes to presenting finesse plastics. It is a ML rod, so it would not be my choice for fishing crankbaits.

 

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I have a mojo bass I use for wacky worms and senkos do you think jerk baits would work fine on the avid?

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1 hour ago, Wesley Owen Purtee said:

I have a mojo bass I use for wacky worms and senkos do you think jerk baits would work fine on it? 

What’s the action and power? Is it spinning or casting?

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 The mojo bass is a 6’8 medium extra fast action I believe and is a spinning rod wasn’t asking if the jerk bait would be fine for mojo should have put avid

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I have the regular Avid version of this, and it was the first St. Croix rod that I tried out and started out with. This rod was what made me become a fan of St. Croix. It's a great rod. Love the taper. It also has the perfect amount of power that I look for in a spinning rod (it's not too noodle-y and not too stiff), and has good sensitivity.  I have also have an Avid X (6' 6" Medium Fast casting), and I find that even though the regular Avid and the Avid X are the same blanks, for the some reason the Avid Xs are much more sensitive and better balanced. I used to think that the only difference between the regular Avid and Avid X would simply be one's personal preference of having a full cork grip or split grip. I like the traditional looking rods with full cork grips and for this reason, I have a couple of regular Avids, but in my hands, the Avid Xs feel so much better. 

 

To answer your question, although I wouldn't primarily use this rod for roostertails and cranks, I have. With up to 1/4oz rooster tails, I've had no problems, and they seem to stay buttoned up even though it has an extra fast action because the rod's power is soft enough to allow it to bend easily to absorb the shocks. However, with squarebills, even with small ones, the rod flexes too much from the resistance. I think small jerkbaits would work fine on this rod. But really, this rod shines and excels for drop shots, ned rigs, split-shot rigs, throwing grubs on 1/8oz jigheads, neko rigging, wacky rigging and other finesse techniques. 

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For the heavier ones like a #3 and #4 Mepps, I would say that this is fine.  I have been using the 6' St. Croix Avid ML Fast for lighter spinner baits and it has been a lot of fun for crappie, smaller bass, wipers, and walleye. 

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1 hour ago, The Pond King said:

I have the regular Avid version of this, and it was the first St. Croix rod that I tried out and started out with. This rod was what made me become a fan of St. Croix. It's a great rod. Love the taper. It also has the perfect amount of power that I look for in a spinning rod (it's not too noodle-y and not too stiff), and has good sensitivity.  I have also have an Avid X (6' 6" Medium Fast casting), and I find that even though the regular Avid and the Avid X are the same blanks, for the some reason the Avid Xs are much more sensitive and better balanced. I used to think that the only difference between the regular Avid and Avid X would simply be one's personal preference of having a full cork grip or split grip. I like the traditional looking rods with full cork grips and for this reason, I have a couple of regular Avids, but in my hands, the Avid Xs feel so much better. 

 

To answer your question, although I wouldn't primarily use this rod for roostertails and cranks, I have. With 1/4oz rooster tails, I've had no problems, and they seem to stay buttoned up even though it has an extra fast action because the rod's power is soft enough to allow it to bend easily to absorb the shocks. However, with squarebills, even with small ones, the rod flexes too much from the resistance. I think small jerkbaits would work fine on this rod. However, this rod really shines and excels for drop shots, ned rigs, split-shot rigs, throwing grubs on 1/8oz jigheads, neko rigging, wacky rigging and other finesse techniques. 

Thanks for info i brought the rod really so I could 1/8 oz lures rooster tails and jerk baits. how do think the whopper plopper 90 would work for this rod? The rod recommended lure weight is for 1/8 to 1/2 oz. the whopper plobber is 1/2 oz. I’m a scoob lol

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I wouldn't think of throwing a Whopper Plopper 90 on anything less than a medium action rod, preferably with a moderately fast tip. ( I use  MH moderate fast or moderate casting rods for exactly this)  Again, a ML should be limited to finesse techniques.  Not only was it not made for throwing heavier lures, it's taper and action doesn't allow you to fish them well and may damage the rod.  Also, rods with extra fast actions are generally designed for feeling the bottom with single hooked baits - Texas rigs, tubes, drop shots, etc.  And they're great for this.  However, in exchange for the fast, super sensitive tip they're also more brittle, have a narrower window for lure weight than slower action rods, and due to how the rod will flex at the tip as opposed to deeper into the blank they can make it difficult to keep fish pinned on treble hooks.  

 

All of that said, you can throw a Zara Spook on an ultra light rod.  Is it a good idea? absolutely not.  Do a search on this forum for posts on the differences in rod actions and you'll have a world of answers to questions you don't even have yet.  

 

Good luck on the water!

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7 hours ago, Turkey sandwich said:

I wouldn't think of throwing a Whopper Plopper 90 on anything less than a medium action rod, preferably with a moderately fast tip. ( I use  MH moderate fast or moderate casting rods for exactly this)  Again, a ML should be limited to finesse techniques.  Not only was it not made for throwing heavier lures, it's taper and action doesn't allow you to fish them well and may damage the rod.  Also, rods with extra fast actions are generally designed for feeling the bottom with single hooked baits - Texas rigs, tubes, drop shots, etc.  And they're great for this.  However, in exchange for the fast, super sensitive tip they're also more brittle, have a narrower window for lure weight than slower action rods, and due to how the rod will flex at the tip as opposed to deeper into the blank they can make it difficult to keep fish pinned on treble hooks.  

 

All of that said, you can throw a Zara Spook on an ultra light rod.  Is it a good idea? absolutely not.  Do a search on this forum for posts on the differences in rod actions and you'll have a world of answers to questions you don't even have yet.  

 

Good luck on the water!

Thanks for the info I think I’ll stay away from the whopper plobber on that and just use my mojo bass for that lure I think I’m just going to use the or well try to use it for rooster and smaller jerk baits

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