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Does anybody have any experience with the Pflueger Patriarch casting reel? I'm going to need a reel for a topwater/jerkbait rod and I got my youngest son a Supreme XT on sale last year and have been quite impressed. From my understanding, the Patriarch has extra braking so it should be good for these lighter lures. Does anyone have any experience with this reel, and is it worth it over say a Supreme XT?

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Not with the Patriarch, but with the older blue Patriarch XT.  Now have 3 of them.  The first one has been to Florida with me a few times.  Spooled with 40# braid.  Primary use has been unweighted 10" ribbontail worms with 3/0 to 5/0 EWG hooks thrown into the slop.  One internal brake on.  Three on the external brake.  Run this reel with the lowest brake settings of any of my reels.

 

No experience with the Supreme XT, but I know smalljaw67 liked his first one well enough he went and got a second one.  Dan used to tournament fish and has used some pretty expensive reels.  I personally feel Pflueger baitcast reels are underrated.

 

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2 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

Not with the Patriarch, but with the older blue Patriarch XT.  Now have 3 of them.  The first one has been to Florida with me a few times.  Spooled with 40# braid.  Primary use has been unweighted 10" ribbontail worms with 3/0 to 5/0 EWG hooks thrown into the slop.  One internal brake on.  Three on the external brake.  Run this reel with the lowest brake settings of any of my reels.

 

No experience with the Supreme XT, but I know smalljaw67 liked his first one well enough he went and got a second one.  Dan used to tournament fish and has used some pretty expensive reels.  I personally feel Pflueger baitcast reels are underrated.

 

They are definitely underrated! My youngest son has a Supreme XT and my oldest son has a Shimano Curado K and I like the Supreme XT better! It casts further, brakes arguably better (it's close), weighs much less and holds the same amount of line while being $50 retail dollars cheaper! It's also probably the smoothest reel I own. The only thing it doesn't have on my Tatula SV is the Tatula SV (also an option but the Tatula's seem to be better 12+lb line where the Pflueger is made for 8+lb) is better at casting lures below 3/8oz although we do manage to throw some 5/16oz crankbaits on it, which I am hoping the dual braking system on the Patriarch will help with when casting 1/4oz poppers and whatnot.

 

Not many people in the bass fishing world seem to really be familiar with the Pflueger casting reels, I think it's because they don't really advertise them heavily or have major sponsors, but I've been incredibly impressed with the Supreme XT!

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been using this model -- pflueger supreme --  for 20 yrs...yrs. ago davy hite and mark davis represented pflueger...times change...

 

 

good fishing...

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Consider a Curado 150 DC. Only about $50 more and it's a DC. If you are looking to cast light lures with overrun protection...seems ideal since you are close to that range anyways.

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The Pfluegers that were good at casting light lures was like 2 generations ago that had spools that held only 100yds of 12 lb test line. Now I think they are just Abu Revos with a different paint job.

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I've owned one for about 3 years now and i'm impressed by it's performance. I find myself reaching for this reel over the many others I own.

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7 hours ago, zell_pop1 said:

The Pfluegers that were good at casting light lures was like 2 generations ago that had spools that held only 100yds of 12 lb test line. Now I think they are just Abu Revos with a different paint job.

Maybe some of them are rebranded Abu Garcia but there is no Abu Garcia branded version of the Patriarch and I'm pretty sure the same is true with the Supreme or higher reels at the very least.

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It's not that they are rebranded, it's that they are all under Pure Fishing, and the reels are made by Doyo.  You're right, there aren't exact models in Pflueger and Abu flavors.  My only experience with recent offerings are from the Abu line.  My Revo SX has the dual braking system, though, and it's really good stuff.  I haven't done any light bait testing, but that's more about the spool and start up.

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10 hours ago, greentrout said:

Image result for pflueger supreme baitcaster

 

been using this model -- pflueger supreme --  for 20 yrs...yrs. ago davy hite and mark davis represented pflueger...times change...

 

good fishing...

I owned a couple of those old Pfluegers as well. One bit the dust. The other is my spare that I leave at my parents lake house. It still casts crankbaits a country mile

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2 hours ago, Boomstick said:

Maybe some of them are rebranded Abu Garcia but there is no Abu Garcia branded version of the Patriarch and I'm pretty sure the same is true with the Supreme or higher reels at the very least.

The one like greentrout posted was actually a Silstar rebrand from several years ago. Pinnacle Pro Series from an eBay listing. Just different handle knobs. 

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I picked up a Patriarch XT to see what it was like. Great reel! Keep the brake blocks "light". I have 2 engaged, and spool tension also "light" (no lure drop slow stuff. Just keep side play away, and maybe a fraction of a turn more).

It casts extremely well. Light and med weight lures. Haven't tried anything I'd call heavy on it, but I'm sure it would perform just fine.

 

My go-to reels are Daiwa Zillion, Tatula, and Ryoga - just for reference.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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I just bought the Patriarch this year. It was my first baitcaster so as far as comparisons I have nothing. I can tell you by mid summer I was casting everything but the lightest weightless plastic. Many people say that 2 braking systems are redundant. I have read that Centrifugal brakes affect the beginning of the cast while the Magnetic brakes affect the end. I believe I have felt and seen that while experimenting with the settings. It is ultra smooth, compact so it fits nicely in your palm, and very light. With the right adjustments, you can cast anything with this reel.

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I don't have a Patriarch baitcaster, but I have the supreme, supreme XT, and a patriarch spinning reel. All are excellent. However, before buying a new one at full price, I would head over to FFO-tackle. They have a few reconditioned patriarchs of the previous generation for $105, with discount on top (currently Buy one, get one 50% off, but the deal rotates every couple weeks).

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On 11/9/2018 at 11:41 AM, diehardbassfishing said:

My go-to reels are Daiwa Zillion, Tatula, and Ryoga - just for reference.

 

Karl

 

 

 

My "go to" reel list just keeps getting bigger.  :rofl_red:

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2 hours ago, Bass Junke said:

I just bought the Patriarch this year. It was my first baitcaster so as far as comparisons I have nothing. I can tell you by mid summer I was casting everything but the lightest weightless plastic. Many people say that 2 braking systems are redundant. I have read that Centrifugal brakes affect the beginning of the cast while the Magnetic brakes affect the end. I believe I have felt and seen that while experimenting with the settings. It is ultra smooth, compact so it fits nicely in your palm, and very light. With the right adjustments, you can cast anything with this reel.

I gather magnetic braking slows the spool the entire cast where the centrifugal brakes limits the top speed of the spool from my experience.

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For mag brakes, it depends on the system.  These work through the entire cast.  Centrifugal brakes increase as spool speeds increase, so basically at startup.  Not all dual braking systems are equal.  This one happens work quite well.

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2 hours ago, J Francho said:

For mag brakes, it depends on the system.  These work through the entire cast.  Centrifugal brakes increase as spool speeds increase, so basically at startup.  Not all dual braking systems are equal.  This one happens work quite well.

That's a bit better detail than how I said it. Thanks.

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i like the blue ones, i think they were last gen, and the all silver ones the gen before that.

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14 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

i like the blue ones, i think they were last gen, and the all silver ones the gen before that.

The current generation is blue, maybe 2013+ or so.

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