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Is this knot a good one for leader to braid connections? With only 2 wraps of braid through the leader loop and then 12 wraps back it appears easier than the Alberto or Uni to Uni. Would it be strong enough?

 

Thanks....Joe

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That'll probably work fine. Just a variation of the Albright.

 

I prefer the other two, and now I really like Shin's knot.

 

 

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Shin's knot looks to be easier to tie.  Will have to give it a shot.  Thanks.

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15 hours ago, Darren. said:

That'll probably work fine. Just a variation of the Albright.

 

I prefer the other two, and now I really like Shin's knot.

 

 

I’m gonna give that a shot 

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The albright special knot, often referred to as just the albright knot has wraps in only one direction, with an overlap where the line changes direction toward the end of the loop formed by the leader. It is (was) popular for joining mono to wire, or wire to mono where the wire forms the loop, and the mono wraps around it. The modified albright (no knied to use the other name) uses an equal (or near equal) number of wraps in both directions, and was developed to join braid to mono and flouro leaders, originally by tuna and other salt water guys (out west, not in LI). The mod albright is just as easy to tie as the albright, and is a better choice for bass fishing applications IMNSHO. 

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In that Shin knot does he go back through leader loop at the end?

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On 6/8/2019 at 3:57 PM, 5/0 said:

it appears easier than the Alberto

Joe, when I first studied the range of options for braid to leader connections I struggled to decide.

 

In my opinion, the Alberto is every bit as easy to tie as the Albright, once you've practiced a couple of times.

 

I routinely tie the Alberto in about 30 seconds and it has become my main connection knot.

 

I fish with kids a lot - so time is always at a premium.

 

I feel the Uni-Uni is also very easy, but personally I like the Alberto.

 

Lots of other popular connections out there, including the good old blood knot and the controversial FG knot.

 

I also like the FG, but the Alberto is my go-to.

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On 6/9/2019 at 2:44 PM, snake95 said:

Joe, when I first studied the range of options for braid to leader connections I struggled to decide.

 

In my opinion, the Alberto is every bit as easy to tie as the Albright, once you've practiced a couple of times.

 

I routinely tie the Alberto in about 30 seconds and it has become my main connection knot.

 

I fish with kids a lot - so time is always at a premium.

 

I feel the Uni-Uni is also very easy, but personally I like the Alberto.

 

Lots of other popular connections out there, including the good old blood knot and the controversial FG knot.

 

I also like the FG, but the Alberto is my go-to.

Thanks all for the advice!

I've practiced the Alberto with 7 wraps to the left and 7 back to the right, trying to get the 7 to the right in the gaps. Is this critical for knot strength? The results have been passable at best🙄. The trouble comes when cinching the knot down, the braid coils on the left don't cinch down as well, especially the first one. I've been able to work it down, but notice that the flouro at the end of the knot looks kinky indicating a weakness in the knot. How can I correct this?

I've been practicing with 8 lb. flouro to 10 lb. braid.

 

Thank you....Joe 

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alberto is my go-to knot. goes through guides just fine and is very compact. my favorite part is how easy it is to tie, especially if i'm out on the water.

1 hour ago, 5/0 said:

Thanks all for the advice!

I've practiced the Alberto with 7 wraps to the left and 7 back to the right, trying to get the 7 to the right in the gaps. Is this critical for knot strength? The results have been passable at best🙄. The trouble comes when cinching the knot down, the braid coils on the left don't cinch down as well, especially the first one. I've been able to work it down, but notice that the flouro at the end of the knot looks kinky indicating a weakness in the knot. How can I correct this?

I've been practicing with 8 lb. flouro to 10 lb. braid.

 

Thank you....Joe 

try wetting the line slightly before cinching down. help's reduce some of the friction

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32 minutes ago, RealtreeByGod said:

Any time I try Albright with braid it pulls through when I try to sinch it. IDK what I'm doing wrong with it. 

You are probably coming out opposite how you went in.

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4 hours ago, BassWhole! said:

You are probably coming out opposite how you went in.

That’s it exactly! I’ve been practicing Albright & Alberto and if you don’t have have lines coming out in same direction it slips through.

Alberto seems to be a slimmer knot.

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18 hours ago, 5/0 said:

I've practiced the Alberto with 7 wraps to the left and 7 back to the right, trying to get the 7 to the right in the gaps. Is this critical for knot strength? The results have been passable at best🙄. The trouble comes when cinching the knot down, the braid coils on the left don't cinch down as well, especially the first one. I've been able to work it down, but notice that the flouro at the end of the knot looks kinky indicating a weakness in the knot. How can I correct this?

I've been practicing with 8 lb. flouro to 10 lb. braid.

I tied 10 lb braid to 8 lb flouro and to 8 lb YoZuri Hybrid several times yesterday.  I had to break off several snags, and the hook connection knot always broke, never the line connection knot.

 

Some thoughts:

I don't try very hard to get the wraps nested right between each other.  I feel like it should help, and I make a half-hearted attempt sometimes, but mostly I just wrap the mainline over itself and hope it slides into place.  I don't believe it is super critical. 

 

I would say my approach (right or wrong), is:

I make some effort trying to keep the braid wraps tight to the leader, as I wrap -- especially that bottom loop where you start coming back towards the mainline.  (But not excessive/obsessive effort).

 

I focus carefully on making sure the braid comes out exactly the same way it went into the first loop.

 

I wet before I cinch.  Ideally, with chapstick.  But that's about 1% of the time.

 

I primarily cinch down the braid.  I believe the main goal is to get the braid to dig down tight and even into the leader to compress it at the scale of the lines.  I pull on the leader tagline to make sure it's snug, but I'm not reefing on the tagline.

 

I don't know about the kinked fluoro.  I've never seen that before.  Maybe you are holding it to tight and pulling too hard?

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

Image result for alberto knot

 

 

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19 hours ago, 5/0 said:

That’s it exactly! I’ve been practicing Albright & Alberto and if you don’t have have lines coming out in same direction it slips through.

Alberto seems to be a slimmer knot.

 

9 hours ago, snake95 said:

I tied 10 lb braid to 8 lb flouro and to 8 lb YoZuri Hybrid several times yesterday.  I had to break off several snags, and the hook connection knot always broke, never the line connection knot.

 

Some thoughts:

I don't try very hard to get the wraps nested right between each other.  I feel like it should help, and I make a half-hearted attempt sometimes, but mostly I just wrap the mainline over itself and hope it slides into place.  I don't believe it is super critical. 

 

I would say my approach (right or wrong), is:

I make some effort trying to keep the braid wraps tight to the leader, as I wrap -- especially that bottom loop where you start coming back towards the mainline.  (But not excessive/obsessive effort).

 

I focus carefully on making sure the braid comes out exactly the same way it went into the first loop.

 

I wet before I cinch.  Ideally, with chapstick.  But that's about 1% of the time.

 

I primarily cinch down the braid.  I believe the main goal is to get the braid to dig down tight and even into the leader to compress it at the scale of the lines.  I pull on the leader tagline to make sure it's snug, but I'm not reefing on the tagline.

 

I don't know about the kinked fluoro.  I've never seen that before.  Maybe you are holding it to tight and pulling too hard?

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

Image result for alberto knot

 

 

Thank you! I’ve tried it and I’m getting good results most of the time, slimmer knot too.

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I haven't found it necessary to get all the wraps to perfectly line up, but I also don't find it difficult to get them to line up. I find if you open them up so they are diagonal or sine wave looking rather than getting them close together, it makes it easier. Cinch down slowly until they just come together and snug, then wet slide to the end of loop, and snap the two working lines to set the knot. I finish with two opposing half hitches, but never had it  slip even without them. I've got it down to less than a minute or so.

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