I’ve now put in some time with the Elite. I bought it with the intention of throwing squarebills but it just didn’t feel right. I couldn’t find a good balance between too much brake and blowing up and was losing a lot of distance from the Tatula 100 I was supposedly upgrading from. So I made some changes and put it on one of my chatterbait/spinnerbait rods and it came alive. I have a Coastal SV on the same rod and both perform about the same which is a good thing. For me the Coastal and Elite just perform better in the 1/2-3/4 oz range. I since put the new Metanium on the squarebill rod and couldn’t be happier. Man what a sweet reel. 
 

Reel experimenting is fun

Long time fan of the Tatula Elite but I just picked up two Tatula 100s for $77/reel on an Academy sale right now. 50% off was too good to pass up...will report back on the nuances I see between the models. These are replacing 10 year old JM Platinum reels so I'm thinking these have to be an upgrade

On 1/9/2021 at 5:06 PM, Mizzoumn said:

I can’t add any insight into the tatula elite or 100, but I saw Midway is having really good deals on blemished elite models. $100 off the 7.1.1 rh model. 

https://www.midwayusa.com/ltd/product?pid=595767

 

This sale is long over, but I thought I'd put in my .000053 cents worth.  'Blem' to me means a cosmetic defect.  My reel's 'Blem' is internal and makes the reel completely unusable without first sending it to a reel specialist to find out what is wrong.  I could have returned it and paid full price for a new reel without a 'Blem'.  No thanks.

On 1/23/2021 at 3:14 PM, PhishLI said:

Plenty of people can switch from one brand to the other while fishing, but they make adjustments whether consciously or not. Same goes for casting from a Kayak or sitting in a Jon boat. Repetition over time calibrates your stroke to the seated position which is different from casting while standing.

Very true.  I have several brands of reels and go from one to another without much trouble...with a caveat or two.  1. Don't go too light of a lure for the rod, and 2.  I can't  bomb a couple different ones until I've made a few casts with them to (unconsciously) get back tuned into using them.  I change reels without thinking about needing to make any casting adjustments.

 

When I visit Florida, I am fishing from a canoe.  At home I am standing or sitting where my casting stoke is very seldom limited.  It is on the boat and takes awhile for me to adjust.  Usually the reels also need some minor adjustments.  Even my Curado 200E7 did.  The only reel that I never had to make any adjustments to when I took it to Florida was my Pinnacle Primmus.  (Well...not the Exsence DC either as long as I didn't go below Max on the brake setting.  The other 3 options never caused a problem.)

On 1/23/2021 at 4:31 PM, PhishLI said:

If we're talking about the older Shimano E series VBS, then yes, Shimano is quite a bit more tolerant of a whip cast, or a cast that loads and unloads late in the stroke. That type of cast will blow up a Daiwa in an instant. But as far as I can tell, SVS Infinity can be somewhat touchy here too. ....Quantum gets little love here, but the ACS 4.0 system allows me to really lay into the cast but get fantastic distance too. It's a more tolerant system that compensates for the added friction by using a taller 36 mm spool. It accomplishes the trick of applying braking that allows for an imperfect hard cast then backs off enough to let it fly.

 

They're all manageable once you get a feel for each type, but what your preference will be is up to you in the end. If you're able to analyze what happens when things go wrong, then visualize your errors and make corrections to your casting mechanics, then you can fish with anything. Some people do this instinctively and some people need to think about it and have mental breakthroughs. It's a lot like swinging a golf club, but with an extra level of complication due to the calibration of the reel's overall behavior.

Been there, done that.  So far I have only used one of my 3 Shimano reels with SVS Infinity, and I found it touchier to get set up than my 'A', 'B', & 'E' series reels.

 

Thanks to your posts I now own several Quantums.  Thanks to life (and health issues) I don't think I've fished one yet.      All purchased on closeout.  Two of them sitting downstairs are for a brother and his wife....if I ever make the trip north. 

The only Daiwa I own I’ve had issues with , the anti reverse bearing, is an Elite. I have the Elite P/F, the Elite, 6 SV’s and 4 100’s.

 

Get a 6 speed and a 7 speed 100 and spend the rest in rods. 

On 6/17/2022 at 10:20 AM, lynxcat said:

fan of the Tatula Elite... just picked up two Tatula 100s...will report back on the nuances I see between the models

Whats the report?

 

@GReb @Blaine Donders

@all

 

I'm still curious how the Elite compares to the new Tat tw100 - anybody have experience with both to compare? One longer casting one more controlled? 

On 3/31/2025 at 11:28 AM, 1984isNOW said:

I'm still curious how the Elite compares to the new Tat tw100 - anybody have experience with both to compare? One longer casting one more controlled? 

I've had Tatula Elites for 5+ years now after switching pretty much everything over from either Tatula SV TW's or Shimano Curado MGL's. The Elite kicks their butts casting-wise by quite a margin.  

 

I had to convert all my reels over to the Elites because it was almost comical switching back and forth - either bombing the Elites too far (on shore, up a tree, over the green monster, etc.) or back to the Tatula SV-TW/Curado and sputtering out with only 2/3 of normal casting distance. 

 

I bought my first Tatula 100 two months ago and have switched it around on the same rods/line/lures and honestly I can't tell a casting performance difference from an Elite. I'm quite impressed by the Tatula 100 (and surprised). The Elite and the (newest model) of the Tatula 100 share the same A7075 Deep Spool and line capacity. If I had to buy another reel today, given the cost difference I'd probably opt for another 100... and as a committed Tatula Elite fanboy, that's hard to admit! 

55 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

hard to admit

I appreciate the honesty and insight.

 

If they both casting about the same in terms of distance, is the new 100 a more controlled, or you mean literally all around they behave about the same?

 

I've been struggling to dial in my elite and find the right place for my style of fishing. I was looking into the new 100 for more distance over my SV spools but more controlled than my Elite. If it's about the same I'll just put more time on my Elite.

 

Thanks again bro

7 minutes ago, 1984isNOW said:

If they both casting about the same in terms of distance, is the new 100 a more controlled, or you mean literally all around they behave about the same?

If there is a difference, I think it's fairly subtle if any.  However, different lures, weights, etc may magnify the difference again if any. 

3 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

if any

Well then I guess I'll be sticking with my Elite and not getting the new 100, with your extensive experience with the Elite in trust your judgement.

 

Guess I gotta just train my thumb a little, or fudge with the zero adjust a bit more. Or maybe it should just be for aerodynamic air slick lures like a bladed jig or swim jig. Haven't thrown those much on it, but it always fluffs or worse with a buzzbait or spinnerbait.

26 minutes ago, 1984isNOW said:

Well then I guess I'll be sticking with my Elite and not getting the new 100, with your extensive experience with the Elite in trust your judgement.

 

Guess I gotta just train my thumb a little, or fudge with the zero adjust a bit more. Or maybe it should just be for aerodynamic air slick lures like a bladed jig or swim jig. Haven't thrown those much on it, but it always fluffs or worse with a buzzbait or spinnerbait.

What line are you using?

@Bigbox99 when I first got it I put either 12 or 15# big game on next to my zillion with the same line. I tried them both side by side on two different rods and switched to compare them both on each rod again using 1/2 buzzbait. Elite got a slight edge in distance a few times, but so much more of a hassle with fluff or nests and often fell short because of the line issues.

 

I forget what the first line I tried after the contest was, I feel inclined to say a 30or40# braid

 

Most recently 50# j braid x8. I really haven't been using it much because I don't want to deal with the headache. But maybe a better casting lure is what I need.

 

I'm gonna try some 40#braid next, forget which brand I have in stock at the moment

1 hour ago, 1984isNOW said:

@Bigbox99 when I first got it I put either 12 or 15# big game on next to my zillion with the same line. I tried them both side by side on two different rods and switched to compare them both on each rod again using 1/2 buzzbait. Elite got a slight edge in distance a few times, but so much more of a hassle with fluff or nests and often fell short because of the line issues.

 

I forget what the first line I tried after the contest was, I feel inclined to say a 30or40# braid

 

Most recently 50# j braid x8. I really haven't been using it much because I don't want to deal with the headache. But maybe a better casting lure is what I need.

 

I'm gonna try some 40#braid next, forget which brand I have in stock at the moment

Your line doesn't seem to be the issue.  If it was heavy fluorocarbon I could write it off but even 15# Big Game is pretty manageable with buzzbaitsz spinerbaits ect.   Are you tracking the bait with yout eyes and slowing then stopping the spool with your thumb as the bait nears and then reaches the water?  If you don't do that then you will get some line fluff at the end of the cast.  I don't have an Elite but I have an Elite spool in a Fuego CT.  It bombs and is very well controlled in the Fuego CT.  Maybe that reel has stronger magnets than the Elite but I can fire off a spool emptying long cast and then go low effort cast for 80% as far instead of 30% with the stock Fuego CT spool.  That's the beauty of the Elite spool.  It's more of an effortless caster than it is a max distance caster.  It impressive how far it casts for so little effort.  

8 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

as the bait nears and then reaches the water

It's happening during the cast and not so much as it almost lands.

 

9 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

reel has stronger magnets than the Elite

It's my understanding that it does, I could be wrong, finding info on Daiwa products has been a crazy journey, I've learned a little Japanese, Taiwanese, and I've encountered one Trojan horse on some sketchy knock off daiwa forum 😜

 

11 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

Elite spool in a Fuego CT

My man @thediscochef put me onto spool swapping. Put a Salamandura Sv 150 spool in my CT, put the hybrid ceramics in, and I wish I had a fleet of these. At least for chatterbaits, and I think buzzbaits But I don't remember the end of last year. But it'll put a bladed jig at 45/50 yards all day, with almost no concern for fluff.

Hmm

 

Now i know they all share a spool size maybe i will grab another Salamandura spool for the Elite... damit I don't really need to spending more money on this thing though

@FryDog62 did you end up grabbing that tat80?

 

I'm really liking the new tat100 for 3/8 bladed jig and 3/8 tube. 1/2 oz bladed jig disappears into the distance. 

 

Still gotta play with wjat other lures it throws well.

 

And it reels so smooth it's like I gotta check and make sure I'm actually holding the handle, buttery isn't smooth enough to describe this.

 

But I'm always on the hunt, I'm thinking that tat80, new tat 100sv, or just getting another tat100 and an sv spool to put in it

No experience with the elite reel, but I did recently put an elite spool into a 3rd gen tat100 (the original post is over 4 years old and referred to the 2nd gen tat100). The tat100's stock and the elite spool are same in size and capacity, but the elite definitely has a stiffer inductor spring which I can physically feel when pulling on them, I find the difference in performance between them in the 3rd gen tat100 to be significant. With the bearings flushed and oiled with tsi321 the distance casting with the tat100/elite spool is crazy good, but it's the distance to effort ratio in the pitching performance that really stands out for me as I'd say close to 90% of my fishing is pitching to targets.

20 hours ago, Banned User said:

@FryDog62 did you end up grabbing that tat80?

 

I'm really liking the new tat100 for 3/8 bladed jig and 3/8 tube. 1/2 oz bladed jig disappears into the distance. 

 

Still gotta play with wjat other lures it throws well.

 

And it reels so smooth it's like I gotta check and make sure I'm actually holding the handle, buttery isn't smooth enough to describe this.

 

But I'm always on the hunt, I'm thinking that tat80, new tat 100sv, or just getting another tat100 and an sv spool to put in it

I did not, decided to stay with the Tatula  100 because it has the same spool as the Tat elite. Smooth casting distance is what’s most important to me anyway. That’s being said, I’ve heard the 80s is very nice too.

24 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

I did not, decided to stay with the Tatula  100 because it has the same spool as the Tat elite. Smooth casting distance is what’s most important to me anyway. That’s being said, I’ve heard the 80s is very nice too.

Stiffer inductor spring on the tat elite spool, fishes very differently imo, see my comment above

3 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

3rd gen tat100

Is that the most recent tat100?

 

3 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

Distance casting with the tat100/elite spool is crazy good, but it's the distance to effort ratio

What about how controlled they are? Much more thumb required? 

Thinking you can cast a bait casting reel and rely on the reel to prevent over runs is like believing fools gold is real.

Train your thumb to prevent over runs!

Tom 

12 minutes ago, Banned User said:

Is that the most recent tat100?

 

What about how controlled they are? Much more thumb required? 

Yes and yes. A stiffer spring means less braking at given spool speed, it's faster and requires a bit more of an educated thumb as they say, the complete opposite of an sv spool.

1 hour ago, WRB said:

Thinking you can cast a bait casting reel and rely on the reel to prevent over runs is like believing fools gold is real

I believe a smart thumb is important, and mine is still in training, but a zillion sv tw can hit 35/40 yards and sometimes no thumb until it hits water without any fluff along along the way. 

 

But yes, when I use my elite I absolutely need to stay throwing 1/2 oz aerodynamic lures or the time bomb starts ticking. Especially going between the two. 

 

I'm stuck with my Elite now, grabbed a drag clicker set before the tariffs grayed out the option. 

 

I wish there was a way to confirm whether the actual magnetic profile/strength is different between the tat ct and tatula elite or if it's basically just the spools/inductor.

 

If the magnets are weaker by design in the Elite, I'd put my sv spool in that and the Elite spool in my CT. Might be the perfect balance if that's the case