the proangler is a great boat.  set up time is the same usually.  my friends and i are on the water at the same time.  well, now he has a motor so i am casting already when he motors up, and i am driving away while he is still messing with things.   if your truck isnt jacked up high, loading it is cake.  you tilt it up while its on the cart, and schooch it in.

 

the yank cord reverse is fine.  i am so fast with it.  i can motor thru significant weeds while any prop guy is tangled up.  my kayak turns on a dime, so i tend to do tiny circles instead of using reverse.  and super shallow water, you can do this shuffle kick where the fins are up tight against the boat and still move along at an okay clip.  that is not happeing with a prop drive. 

 

i took my friends ProAngler 12 360 out and i hated it.  it was so cumbersome, and slow.  it felt like it was nose heavy and i was leaning forward all the time.  he loves it.  as do a lot of people.  he cant go to all the places i can, like get a friend to help me lift my kayak over a cattle fence.  the PA it aint happening. 

1 hour ago, Darth-Baiter said:

the proangler is a great boat.  set up time is the same usually.  my friends and i are on the water at the same time.  well, now he has a motor so i am casting already when he motors up, and i am driving away while he is still messing with things.   if your truck isnt jacked up high, loading it is cake.  you tilt it up while its on the cart, and schooch it in.

 

the yank cord reverse is fine.  i am so fast with it.  i can motor thru significant weeds while any prop guy is tangled up.  my kayak turns on a dime, so i tend to do tiny circles instead of using reverse.  and super shallow water, you can do this shuffle kick where the fins are up tight against the boat and still move along at an okay clip.  that is not happeing with a prop drive. 

 

i took my friends ProAngler 12 360 out and i hated it.  it was so cumbersome, and slow.  it felt like it was nose heavy and i was leaning forward all the time.  he loves it.  as do a lot of people.  he cant go to all the places i can, like get a friend to help me lift my kayak over a cattle fence.  the PA it aint happening. 

Im confused you hated your firends pro angler, but you think it is  great boat?  Help me understand

He's referencing two different drive systems: Mirage 180 and 360 are totally different. 

2 hours ago, Jeffrey Walker said:

Im confused you hated your firends pro angler, but you think it is  great boat?  Help me understand

easy.  it wasnt for me.  he loves it.  (i think i stated that)  he loves the horizontal rod holders, he loves that he can do a trolling motor with spot lock, and he can put a sliding drawer under his seat.   i only have my opinion and its based on weight and speed mostly.  

 

too heavy, too nose heavy. but there is no denying that it is stable beyond anything i own.  i found it too slow and manuevered too wide.  i think he upgrade his rudder.   he is better in wind by a mile.  my bias is based on my first kayak, the Compass.  it's just the style of kayak fishing i like.  i dont need a floating boat dock.   me not liking it at all doenst make it NOT a great kayak for somebody.  my opinion is pretty much my own. 

Personally, if you plan to fish a lot, get a 12 footer.  Stable, can hold a good amount of gear, still light enough to not require a trailer.

been looking at Kayaks with a peddle drive system.  Old Town 106 and the 120 look real good to me.  Nucanoe Unlimited is also looking good because it is wider than most at 41 inches and I love the seat that swivels .  But have not head much about the pedal drive system that Nucanoe has.  Is it too new and no one has used enough to give a report on how it works or is it because that it has been tested and no one likes it?  Just wanting to know so I can make a decision on one so I can get a pedal drive Kayak.  Thank you for any help that you can provide on this subject .

I've been looking at the FeelFree Flash PDL.  It's marketed as a recreational kayak since it's not as wide as other FeelFree fishing kayaks.  But, there are plenty of reviews that show people standing in it with no issue.  

 

11 ft. in length, 70 pounds (w/o the drive), Auto reverse with the pedal system, all for $1600...but I've found several dealers online who are selling them below retail.

 

I've had several different FeelFree kayaks and they've all been great.  Top notch customer service in my experience!

 

https://www.feelfreeus.com/products/flash?variant=40467062390945

hay thanks Joe for the information I have not checked out the feelfree Kayaks, I will look into them