Does anybody use the Tat Elite here and can attest to what it has over lower tat models like 80, 150, 200, etc, or even over the new 100 model which includes all of the hyperdrive features found in higher-end models

I have the Elite Pitch and Flip model and I really like it. I can't give you all the specs. I think the biggest advantage I had heard is that I believe it has aluminum side plates, which is supposed to keep things better aligned for smoother and durable construction.

 

i believe the P/F model I have has a shallower spool than the regular Tatula Elite and has a large handle with large foam knobs that allow for increased handle torque. I dont think the regular Elite gets the same handle, but I don't know that for sure.

 

All I know is that I picked one up on sale and put it on a St Croix Legend series rod I had picked up. It's light and well balanced, yet feels bulletproof! I really like it for pitching skipping jigs in and around cover

1 hour ago, FrnkNsteen said:

I have the Elite Pitch and Flip model and I really like it. I can't give you all the specs. I think the biggest advantage I had heard is that I believe it has aluminum side plates, which is supposed to keep things better aligned for smoother and durable construction.

 

i believe the P/F model I have has a shallower spool than the regular Tatula Elite and has a large handle with large foam knobs that allow for increased handle torque. I dont think the regular Elite gets the same handle, but I don't know that for sure.

 

All I know is that I picked one up on sale and put it on a St Croix Legend series rod I had picked up. It's light and well balanced, yet feels bulletproof! I really like it for pitching skipping jigs in and around cover

Yeah the P/F is coming to my Arsenal one. Also from what I understand, $180 tatulas have an aluminum frame and aluminum side plate on the handle side. 

16 hours ago, PTasker15 said:

Does anybody use the Tat Elite here and can attest to what it has over lower tat models like 80, 150, 200, etc, or even over the new 100 model which includes all of the hyperdrive features

The new 100 has a differently styled frame. Spool weights are the same as the Elite at about 14 grams, but the Elite has a stiffer inductor spring as do other Daiwas intended for longer casts.

 

The initial promo vid from Daiwa says the 23 100 has a metal side-plate, but this isn't mentioned on TW's site or any other seller's pages AFAIK. They also claimed it has a double bearing supported pinion, but it just the standard Tatula long spool configuration. However, the schematic shows a spring clip retainer for the spool bearing on that side which is a good sign that it may have a metal side plate after all, but I have yet to confirm this. Hopefully it does.

14 hours ago, PTasker15 said:

Also from what I understand, $180 tatulas have an aluminum frame and aluminum side plate on the handle side. 

The SVs don't other than the 70.

 

23 Tatula 100 section

Do the Tatula Elite’s contain brass gears?

43 minutes ago, MidwestBassAttack said:

Do the Tatula Elite’s contain brass gears?

Yes

12 hours ago, PhishLI said:

However, the schematic shows a spring clip retainer for the spool bearing on that side which is a good sign that it may have a metal side plate after all, but I have yet to confirm this. Hopefully it does.

 

 

 

23 Tatula 100 section

Don't all the Tatulas have the spring clip on the handle side? I know one side has the star shape retainer and the other has the square spring clip.

 

Thought the spring clip one was on the handle side and star shaped one on the spool cover side on all of them that I have opened up..

1 hour ago, FrnkNsteen said:

Don't all the Tatulas have the spring clip on the handle side?

No, typically only the metal side plate models. They have a groove machined into the bearing well to receive the spring clip (15). However, all models have the spring clip retainer on the palming side plate.

 

1 hour ago, FrnkNsteen said:

Thought the spring clip one was on the handle side and star shaped one on the spool cover side on all of them that I have opened up..

The star shaped friction fit retainer (49) is found on recent plastic handle-side side plate models. 

 

 

You're right.

 

I just knew I had pulled them out when replacing bearings on my CT Type R and flushing /oiling bearings on the Tat SVs. I knew there was one of each on mine, but had them backwards.

I had a bunch of tat sv's and a couple of the elites. I really liked the P/F but that was mostly because the handle was A+. If I were buying a new reel and had to be under the zillion class reels, my #1 priority would be the new gear cut so I think I'd just get the new 100. Feel on the reeling has such a dramatic effect on my experience though. I just go nuts with the geary. They all cast great. 

 

Obligatory comment: just buy the the JDM zillion. Easy to buy on amazon.co.jp or amazon.com if you aren't comfy with digitaka or whatever. It's ~225 and it's a whole 'nother class of reel. I have no preference for my lone Steez SV over the zillions. 

 

On 1/14/2024 at 8:22 PM, PTasker15 said:

Does anybody use the Tat Elite here and can attest to what it has over lower tat models like 80, 150, 200, etc, or even over the new 100 model which includes all of the hyperdrive features found in higher-end models

I like the way the Elite casts but its a bit pricey at $170 when I can get Zillions for under $250.  It they had the hyper gears I'd be all over the Elite.  The spool in that one is special.  It has normal tatula braking profile but is super light like the SV spools so it is an effortless caster and easy to control for skipping and pitching but still out cast non SV Boost spools.

On 1/14/2024 at 11:38 PM, PhishLI said:

The new 100 has a differently styled frame. Spool weights are the same as the Elite at about 14 grams, but the Elite has a stiffer inductor spring as do other Daiwas intended for longer casts.

 

The initial promo vid from Daiwa says the 23 100 has a metal side-plate, but this isn't mentioned on TW's site or any other seller's pages AFAIK. They also claimed it has a double bearing supported pinion, but it just the standard Tatula long spool configuration. However, the schematic shows a spring clip retainer for the spool bearing on that side which is a good sign that it may have a metal side plate after all, but I have yet to confirm this. Hopefully it does.

The SVs don't other than the 70.

 

23 Tatula 100 section

Did you ever confirm if it’s an aluminum side plate? Trying to figure out which to buy. Also does the tatula 100 have brass gears as well?

 

On 5/11/2025 at 10:26 PM, Brycecover said:

Did you ever confirm if it’s an aluminum side plate?

I haven't.

On 5/11/2025 at 10:26 PM, Brycecover said:

Also does the tatula 100 have brass gears as well?

Yup.

 

On 5/11/2025 at 9:26 PM, Brycecover said:

Did you ever confirm if it’s an aluminum side plate? Trying to figure out which to buy. Also does the tatula 100 have brass gears as well?

 

FYI the JDM 100 that's like $110 has aluminum alloy gears. I can't say I have ever heard about anyone tearing them up; the japanese prefer a lighter reel so you get some ounces of savings.

8 hours ago, txchaser said:

FYI the JDM 100 that's like $110 has aluminum alloy gears. I can't say I have ever heard about anyone tearing them up; the japanese prefer a lighter reel so you get some ounces of savings.

Yeah but the 21 zillion that we all love from Japan also has aluminum gears, no one has had problems with those I don’t think.  

Honestly, the new 100 competes with the zillion. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to make themselves feel better that they already got the zillion. 

 

The drag clicker is nice, and yes it will skip a bit better and handle lighter lures better, but general fishing the 100 holds its own in castability and reel feel. Smoother than melted butter

3 hours ago, Brycecover said:

Yeah but the 21 zillion that we all love from Japan also has aluminum gears, no one has had problems with those I don’t think.  

I’m pretty the JDM Zillion that comes straight from Japan has brass. The American retail Zillion is aluminum. That’s my understanding 

1 hour ago, dk2429 said:

JDM Zillion

Aluminum 

 

1 hour ago, dk2429 said:

American retail Zillion

Brass

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/238094-2021-zillion-sv-tw-jdm-vs-usdm/

Daiwas aluminum gears are perfectly fine. Shimano gave aluminum a bad rep

12 minutes ago, Banned User said:

Aluminum 

 

Brass

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/238094-2021-zillion-sv-tw-jdm-vs-usdm/

Had it backwards. Thanks! 

On 5/15/2025 at 9:26 AM, Banned User said:

Honestly, the new 100 competes with the zillion. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to make themselves feel better that they already got the zillion. 

 

The drag clicker is nice, and yes it will skip a bit better and handle lighter lures better, but general fishing the 100 holds its own in castability and reel feel. Smoother than melted butter

At this point anything with hyperdrive is like another class of reel. I bought the new tat200 for a soft swimbait reel. It's as smooth as the zillion. Like "oh I forgot to even turn up the drag when I got it" level smooth.