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Do you generally find Daiwa’s reels to be of inferior craftsmanship when compared to Shimano?

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15 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Anymore it feels like veering south of that price range is a dice roll unfortunately 

In case you don't know, the higher price of a reel doesn't automatically make it immune to glitches caused by lubrication issues. Even expensive reels can come out of the box on the dry side which can lead to symptoms like a sticking thumb bar. I know because I've worked on them. Geary-ness, or pronounced gear meshing that you can feel is often a bearing issue and not always a gear(s) issue. No need to overreact to minor matters. If you lack the confidence to dive in and learn to work on your gear, which I highly recommend, then just send it out to someone reputable. I have yet to come across a problem that couldn't be easily solved other than obsolete parts for older reels.

 

The Tatula 150/200s are proven platforms that are dumb simple to work on.

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1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

In case you don't know, the higher price of a reel doesn't automatically make it immune to glitches caused by lubrication issues. Even expensive reels can come out of the box on the dry side which can lead to symptoms like a sticking thumb bar. I know because I've worked on them. Geary-ness, or pronounced gear meshing that you can feel is often a bearing issue and not always a gear(s) issue. No need to overreact to minor matters. If you lack the confidence to dive in and learn to work on your gear, which I highly recommend, then just send it out to someone reputable. I have yet to come across a problem that couldn't be easily solved other than obsolete parts for older reels.

 

The Tatula 150/200s are proven platforms that are dumb simple to work on.

Can you point me in the right direction for repairing the thumb bar?

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Send it to DVT Mike. 

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7 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

Can you point me in the right direction for repairing the thumb bar?

By yourself? If you look at opening up a reel in the same light as operating on an infant's heart, then don't mess with it. If you don't, then mention it and we'll go from there. If the thumb bar only gets stuck intermittently, then likely nothing's broken, like a return spring. In that case, I don't think of lubrication as something that qualifies as a repair.

 

Otherwise, make contact and send it here.

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4 hours ago, PhishLI said:

By yourself? If you look at opening up a reel in the same light as operating on an infant's heart, then don't mess with it. If you don't, then mention it and we'll go from there. If the thumb bar only gets stuck intermittently, then likely nothing's broken, like a return spring. In that case, I don't think of lubrication as something that qualifies as a repair.

 

Otherwise, make contact and send it here.

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It only gets stuck intermittently, I guess I’m confused as to how lubrication would fix this?

25 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

It only gets stuck intermittently, I guess I’m confused as to how lubrication would fix this?

Not enough lubrication would more than likely be causing what you are describing as it isn’t doing it every time like if a part was broken. 

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7 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

It only gets stuck intermittently, I guess I’m confused as to how lubrication would fix this?

I suggest that you pull out the schematic and study it. Follow that up by watching some early Tackle Advisors low profile reel teardown vids on YT. The reel model doesn't matter. They're all built and operate the same way. If after that you still can't visualize how these things work, nothing I can say here will help as none of it will make sense to you especially if I'm calling out parts and using terms that you're unfamiliar with.

 

In the meantime, what might help you loosely get why I recommended what I have is that all non-fixed components in the thumb-bar/clutch cam chain operate as a slip-fit. There are friction points in the circuit, both external and internal. Some are more critical than others where lubrication is concerned. Excluding a weak return spring, which is doubtful, lubing this circuit typically solves an intermittently returning thumb bar. The reason it's intermittent is because sometimes your first crank of the handle is done with more force than others which kicks the mechanism past the dry friction point allowing the cam return spring to do the rest.

 

Good luck.

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