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Kistler Jig and Toad rods

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After my last trip, I think I've decided that I'll have a Texas rig on d**n near all the time.  I generally fish shallower, so I doubt I'll go above 1/4 oz very much, if at all.

At the same time, I've never frog fished in the slop before, and I'd like to try that as well.   I don't think any of my current equipment is heavy enough for that.  Same with swimbaits.

In my searching, I see that Kistler jig and toad rods are rated at something like 1/4 oz to 1.5 oz lure weight, and it peaked my interest.

Is this rod versatile enough to pull double triple duty?  ie light T-rigs (~1/4 oz), frogs and ~1 oz swimbaits?

Can't help with that Kistler as I have their LTA Heliums but this will 'bump' your post up :o.

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I don't think any rod can be that versatile. I have a Lamiglas SR705R, Heavy Power/ Slow Action, glass rod that can handle a wide range of casting weights, but it wouldn't be worth a hoot for fishing jigs or soft plastics.

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Yeah, I really didn't think it was likely.

The wife likely won't like to hear I'll need 2 new rods for this stuff :o

  • Super User

Chris,

You want a t-rig on all the time but want a rod to pull triple duty, including the t-rig? Sounds like you "need" 2 rods... a dedicated t-rig and a frog/small swimbait rod.

A wife friendly answer that's actually true:

For swimbaits of 1 oz, almost any "t-rig" or "frog" rod will handle your triple duty requirement. I have several rods that I use (Loomis 784, 844, All Star 827, 828, 848, St.Croix 4C70HF, 5C70HF) that are rated to throw up to 1 or 1.5 oz but have a light enough tip to handle 1/8-3/16 oz weighted t-rigs (my standard). I guess the trick is to find a rod you are comfortable casting the lightest of the 3 with (the lighter tipped rod) but with a rating to handle the swimbaits. What you will have is a rod that is rated for any of them but will "feel" a little awkward with either the lightest or heaviest bait. The way most rods are rated these days, I feel funny with them at the upper end of the ratings as far as casting goes. I typically like the upper limit to be in the mid to upper mid range of the ratings. (most rods rated for 1 oz I like in the 1/8 - 5/8 range and 1 oz feels way out of "how it should feel to me")

Bottom line to this whole system is to have a decent reel or well trained thumb that will throw the lighter t-rigs and the rest is easy.

To further highlight the example, I was working on my new hvy swimbait rod (BB896) this morning (rated 17-40# 3-8 oz.) but I use a 1/2 oz weight when going through static testing... I decided to take the rod out and do some test casting and pitchin' with just the 1/2oz weight. This rod will cast and pitch the weight just as nicely as my rods rated to handle this lighter weight... and I was using a revo S with 20# XT.   The bottom line is most rod ratings are some guys's opinion of what range he likes on that particular blank.

Just don't overthink this stuff. If you get stuck in a bind where the wife digs in, I'll send you a loaner- you just have to pay the shipping. (and return it someday when you replace it)

-keith

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