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Sorry, haven't used either of those rods, would like to say WELCOME to the forums!!!

                             As Ever,

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Both are great reels, you can't go wrong with either but I can tell you I am loving the president. It was my Father's day gift and it is quickly becoming my favorite reel.

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Welcome aboard!

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I haven't fished a pfleuger before but I have fished an abu and I really liked it.  The one I had was small UL reel, I think it was called a Cardinal but I can't remember the number.  I bought it at wal mart for about $30 three or four years ago.

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