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Has anybody used both of these? theres a rod on ebay for 175$ thats made from an IM8 blank and the guy selling it says it weighs three ounces and is up there with the five hundred dollar rods. I would post the link but the auction ends in 40 minuets but he makes rods and sells them so im sure he will have more. I was just curious how the IM8 compares to the Glx in sensitivity and streght?

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Just for reference, Shimano calls the compre IM8, the crucial IM9, and the cumara IM10. The funny part is there is no real IM rating standard. What Shimano calls IM10, another company might call IM8 and so on. Bottom line though is that it's not gonna be up there with a glx. For that kind of money I would look at a used cumara.

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Is it a G Blank? The IM(insert number) doesn't really mean a whole lot anymore, and varies from company to company. If it is a G blank IM8 I have heard fairly good things about them. The blank itself goes for around $100 or so, whereas the GLX goes for roughly $260 and this is without components. I would suggest doing your research, and if it is a G Blank, there will be more on ebay and you can order them from the company with specifics for around the same price.

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Sounds like GBlanks. Their IM8 rod would be a good rod but I doubt it would compare with the GLX in sensitivity. Weight, yes, but probably not sensitivity.

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'IM' is quite misunderstood. I'll try and explain it. IM is a rating the Hexel corporation gave to a series of fabrics it produces. These fabrics are used for the making of graphite/carbon fiber. Hexel gave the IM rating to describe the strength to weight ratio of the fabric, or how many psi it can withstand (IM6-40 million PSI, IM7-41 million PSI, IM8 45 million PSI). This fabric is also called a 'scrim (a woven fabric...like a gauze pad). The scrim is the backbone of the graphite, much like rebar in concrete. These fibers can be made of a variety of materials, with the best being pure carbon. When you coat this fabric or 'scrim' with resin and it hardens...you have graphite. The resin that coats the fabric is as important as the fabric itself, and makes up quite a bit of the finished material. Good resin gives high modulus fibers the ability to flex without breaking. Other manufacturers adopted the IM ratings of the Hexel corp, and even extended them.

The big thing with the modulous rating is what the fibers or 'scrim' are made of. Kind of like your sheets....are they egyptian cotton or Bamboo/cotton blend? etc. The scrim material and resin equate into how sensitive a rod is. Loomis's GLX is 65 million modulous, and has pure carbon fabric or 'scrim'. There are higher modulous fabrics out there, but why aren't they as sensitive as a Loomis? Number 1 is you don't know what the fabric is made out of, and #2 Loomis has a proprietary resin blend. It's the Loomis resin that sets them apart IMHO. There are other blanks with a pure carbon scrim on the market, but the GLX sets itself apart due to Gary's secret resin blend. Cheers....

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'IM' is quite misunderstood. I'll try and explain it. IM is a rating the Hexel corporation gave to a series of fabrics it produces. These fabrics are used for the making of graphite/carbon fiber. Hexel gave the IM rating to describe the strength to weight ratio of the fabric, or how many psi it can withstand (IM6-40 million PSI, IM7-41 million PSI, IM8 45 million PSI). This fabric is also called a 'scrim (a woven fabric...like a gauze pad). The scrim is the backbone of the graphite, much like rebar in concrete. These fibers can be made of a variety of materials, with the best being pure carbon. When you coat this fabric or 'scrim' with resin and it hardens...you have graphite. The resin that coats the fabric is as important as the fabric itself, and makes up quite a bit of the finished material. Good resin gives high modulus fibers the ability to flex without breaking. Other manufacturers adopted the IM ratings of the Hexel corp, and even extended them.

The big thing with the modulous rating is what the fibers or 'scrim' are made of. Kind of like your sheets....are they egyptian cotton or Bamboo/cotton blend? etc. The scrim material and resin equate into how sensitive a rod is. Loomis's GLX is 65 million modulous, and has pure carbon fabric or 'scrim'. There are higher modulous fabrics out there, but why aren't they as sensitive as a Loomis? Number 1 is you don't know what the fabric is made out of, and #2 Loomis has a proprietary resin blend. It's the Loomis resin that sets them apart IMHO. There are other blanks with a pure carbon scrim on the market, but the GLX sets itself apart due to Gary's secret resin blend. Cheers....

Great info I was going to just google what the IM graphite ment.  So what are powerwalls?  

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Has anybody used both of these? theres a rod on ebay for 175$ thats made from an IM8 blank and the guy selling it says it weighs three ounces and is up there with the five hundred dollar rods. I would post the link but the auction ends in 40 minuets but he makes rods and sells them so im sure he will have more. I was just curious how the IM8 compares to the Glx in sensitivity and streght?

If its "up there with the five hundred dollar rods" then why is he selling it for $175. If it sounds to good to be true then it probably is and remember unless its a known product and its a just great deal, you get what you pay for. Dont expect a copy of a GLX, they cost over $300 for a reason.

BTW, I ordered a G-Blanks for $170 just to see if its a good rod.  I'll let you know.

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I purchased my first Loomis rods this year, a BCR803 GLX(thanks bronzefly!......this is more of an all around than you may be lead to believe...if you've held a 783..this is 2 " longer and a 1/2 power up on a traditional 3 power), a Bronzeback GLX spin and an IMX 781-1 UL.

I don't want to sound like a tackle snob at all because I really am just learning about today's gear but I knew since I was a kid that someday I wanted a Loomis rod(25 years or so  ago that was all the tackle savvy anglers were talking about in the local tackle shop)...starting saving to replace my aging stuff over a year ago....they ARE all that people say.

Just amazing rods, the GLX is on it's own planet as far as I'm concerned. IMX is fantastic too. The actions also are just great.

Like the other person said, that's why they are so expensive...they are worth it and you will boat, net, haul more fish in. You just feel EVERYTHING. As you get used to the rod you stop trying to set the hook every 2 seconds thinking you have a fish...the material in the GLX rods pretty much say to your hands "HEY THIS IS A FISH!" when you hook one.

I have done more casting with no lure to find structure due to the high water levels we've had this year and honestly, you can tell if it's grass, rock, wood, sand..etc. This is a revelation for a shore bound angler like me.

Sadly, those rods have spoiled me and there is no turning back ;D ;D ;D ;D

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I see an great old link reappearing.

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I purchased my first Loomis rods this year, a BCR803 GLX(thanks bronzefly!......this is more of an all around than you may be lead to believe...if you've held a 783..this is 2 " longer and a 1/2 power up on a traditional 3 power), a Bronzeback GLX spin and an IMX 781-1 UL.

I don't want to sound like a tackle snob at all because I really am just learning about today's gear but I knew since I was a kid that someday I wanted a Loomis rod(25 years or so ago that was all the tackle savvy anglers were talking about in the local tackle shop)...starting saving to replace my aging stuff over a year ago....they ARE all that people say.

Just amazing rods, the GLX is on it's own planet as far as I'm concerned. IMX is fantastic too. The actions also are just great.

Like the other person said, that's why they are so expensive...they are worth it and you will boat, net, haul more fish in. You just feel EVERYTHING. As you get used to the rod you stop trying to set the hook every 2 seconds thinking you have a fish...the material in the GLX rods pretty much say to your hands "HEY THIS IS A FISH!" when you hook one.

I have done more casting with no lure to find structure due to the high water levels we've had this year and honestly, you can tell if it's grass, rock, wood, sand..etc. This is a revelation for a shore bound angler like me.

Sadly, those rods have spoiled me and there is no turning back ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh no, sounds like you never should have tried a GLX.

It will ruin you for life!

If they ever adopt the newer style split foam grip like the steez, I will be tradin all my steez for GLX.

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I see an great old link reappearing.

yup l agree, what makes me pee my pants with laughter is theres a guy in here tryin to, and I quote one of his famous sayings "compare apples to oranges" it just dont work.

The GLX is in a class of its own, Ive never put the Rainshadow RX8+ and the GLX in the same category, but it will hold its own in its price range.

Personal preference. The RX8 they sell for under $200 is a very nice rod, but there are alot of rods in that range. I just happen to like the GBlanks rods, while others like Steez n GLX's for nearly double the money.

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Gblanks are very well made.   I have three and would compare them with Kistler Magnesiums or Heliums depending on the blank used.   I also have a Kistler Helium flipping stick,  Magnesium and graphite series spinning rods.   I had a Setyr that I broke.   The Gblanks are as good as any and lighter than the Setyr and Graphite series.  The three I have all have Batson blanks (Forecast series I think) I don't know what the comparable IM blank would be.  They are certainly better than any BPS rod I have picked up.  Well worth the money by comparison.

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I have used the GLX worm rods and there is NO WAY that an IM8 can even come close! It is a very nice rod indeed!

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I have used the GLX worm rods and there is NO WAY that an IM8 can even come close! It is a very nice rod indeed!

Thank You Dink..I agree, the 2 rods do not belong in the same class.

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I have used the GLX worm rods and there is NO WAY that an IM8 can even come close! It is a very nice rod indeed!

Thank You Dink..I agree, the 2 rods do not belong in the same class.

Totally agree.

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Thanks guys! I think im going to feel the rod first and put a reel on it( the ebay seller lives right by me and ive been messaging him) and see how I like it.

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Sensitivity and Density go hand-in-hand, but sensitivity and strength do not.

The Loomis GLX is 65-million modulus, which is a high-modulus blank, i.e."HM".

An IM-8 is an intermediate modulus blank, i.e. "IM". A scale "8" IM blank will fall between 43 million & 47 million modulus,

depending on the rodmaker, which is significantly lower modulus than the Loomis GLX.

The higher modulus GLX (naked blank) is denser, more sensitive and has a faster recovery rate than IM-8

The IM-8 however is a stronger and more durable blank, because the coarser weave of intermediate modulus

is more pliable (less brittle) than a dense weave, and also because the lower the modulus the heavier the blank wall.

If you were in pursuit of large gamefish like billfish, tuna or muskellunge, the IM-8 would be the clear winner,

otherwise the GLX is the clear winner.

Roger

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