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The "prefect" mono?

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  • Super User

What kind of relationship is there between density and stretch? :-/

  • Super User

Doesn't braid have low density (it floats?) and it is much more sensitive than mono. On the other hand, fluoro is very dense (it sinks) and it is also more sensitive than mono?

  • Super User
Doesn't braid have low density (it floats?) and it is much more sensitive than mono. On the other hand, fluoro is very dense (it sinks) and it is also more sensitive than mono?

It also stretches just as much as mono does.  Seemed to the one time I used it.  I don't have enough experience with it to say for sure, but I've known others here to say the same thing.

  • Super User

Sensitivity is the ability to transfer vibrations, impact, etc.

Not a whole lot different than the way sound is transmitted.

Air is a very poor conductor of sound.  I travels better in less elastic substances.  Sound travels faster in water, than air, and carries further.  It travels faster yet in an iron rod.

It is transmitted poorly in a rubber band, unless it is stretched taut.

Mono, by nature cannot be a good transmitter of vibration, or shock since it tends to absorb, and cushion them.  Want sensitivity, try monel wire.  It won't cast well, however.

I used it years ago for striper fishing, and you'd feel everything.  It was used primarily for getting lures and baits down deep w/o having to stream out a hundred yards of line.

The other line I used was lead core.  Doubt they make it any more.  It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.

The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead.  The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments.  Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.

I know what you mean about the "feel" of braid.  Makes a perfectly smooth reel feel like a coffee grinder.

Except for a couple of uses, I stick with the braid, and a fluoro leader.  On a spinning reel, ten pound braid casts like two pound mono.  And, you can get many more yards of line on a small spool.

Just as others have mentioned, the line you may be looking for is Co-polymer.  Try P-Line CXX or CX and Yo-Zuri.  Both are nice lines.  

  • Author

If this line is going on spinning gear, I'd strongly recommend that you stick with braid and forget monofilament line.

If it's going on a casting outfit, I'd choose Trilene Big Game for 'nylon' mono

and Sufix Siege for 'copolymer' mono.

Roger

So Sufix in copolymer 'eh! I didn't know that. I had it on my first bait caster, but than I got more into jigs and worms, and went to braid.

Just as others have mentioned, the line you may be looking for is Co-polymer.  Try P-Line CXX or CX and Yo-Zuri.  Both are nice lines.  

I think I'll try P-line CXX, sounds really good! ;)

Oh and this density to sensitivity thing you guys got going is making my head spin! B)

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Thanks a lot for the reply's guys! :)

  • Super User

Too much for me to read right now, I'm sure it's been said, but plain and simple. .... There is no PERFECT line, if there was... everyone would be using the same thing.

I've come as close as I possibly can to be satisfied with what line I use, but like everything, it has it's trade offs.

Jeff- Fluro stretches much less than mono does hence the reason why some people don't like to flip with it since it lacks the shock resistance that mono has.  That being said, I still prefer it for all but my spinnerbait and topwater presentations   ;D

The other line I used was lead core. Doubt they make it any more. It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.

The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead. The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments. Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.

Just for information, they still do make lead-core line. It is used alot up here in trolling application for walleye, salmon, etc.

Cabelas actually sells the exact line you mentioned that is colored differently every 10yards.

Eric

  • Super User
The other line I used was lead core. Doubt they make it any more. It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.

The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead. The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments. Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.

Just for information, they still do make lead-core line. It is used alot up here in trolling application for walleye, salmon, etc.

Cabelas actually sells the exact line you mentioned that is colored differently every 10yards.

Eric

I remember the first time I ever drift-fished with "lead-core" line (Stripers off Sandy Hook, NJ)

For the first few minutes I thought my lure was being attacked by a band of bluefish.

It was nothing more than the pebbles on the bottom :-[ ;D

Roger

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