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Don't know about hype, but they do save on tip weight. Any time you remove weight from the tip end of a rod it's a good thing. a #4 Alconite weighs about 1/3 of a #6 Alconite. There's a lot of weight that can be shaved on the tip of a rod by using them.

but remember......the smallest guide to pass your connections should be used.

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Properly used, micro guides will improve casting distance and accuracy by keeping the line off the blank and traveling straight. In addition to line size and any knots you may want to pass, consider climate. You want a larger guide where icing would be a possibility, like on a steel-head rod. As shfishinsticks stated, they save significant weight as well.

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save significant weight

I disagree here...

If you consider GRAMS as significant..

Placing only in the tip section (maybe 3 to 4 guides), isn't significant weight savings......

Maybe in conjunction with split grip no for grip (less cork or foam), and using the lightest seats (maybe skeletal), using the least amount of finish etc.

Tight Lines! 

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They save weight where it matters. Split grips and shaved reel seats just save weight. ANy time weight is removed in front of the reel seat, it makes a difference. Take a normal build with 7-#6 running guides...replace with 7-#4 guides....It's like removing 4 guides. 4 guides worth of weight in the tip section of a rod is significant.....especially on ultra-light, light and medium-light rods.

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When we're talking Ounces, the grams add up. Plus you use less glue.

I think they're are a substantial weight savings, in an area that matters most.

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I saw a couple of microguide rods that dick built and was quite impressed with 'em. They were the first one's I had seen in hand. I asked him last year about building me one but have yet to hear back.

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micro guides will improve casting distance and accuracy by keeping the line off the blank and traveling straight.

I'm confused about these because I have a hard time understanding how the micro guides keep the line off the blank.  I was playing with one of the Carrots with mirco guides and the line was on the blank almost the whole way up.  Could you elaborate for me?

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I saw a couple of microguide rods that dick built and was quite impressed with 'em. They were the first one's I had seen in hand. I asked him last year about building me one but have yet to hear back.

my mistake, I remember talking about it with you, but I wasn't sure if you were serious or ready.  I'll shoot you a PM..

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micro guides will improve casting distance and accuracy by keeping the line off the blank and traveling straight.

I'm confused about these because I have a hard time understanding how the micro guides keep the line off the blank. I was playing with one of the Carrots with mirco guides and the line was on the blank almost the whole way up. Could you elaborate for me?

  i am going to try and build a rod with micro guides   got the blank and ordered from mudhole the handle and guides   they say the best build is to build it with a spiral  build  i can see then how to keep line off of rod  what i read is you of course find your spline  then put reel on and lay it flat on a bench with it hanging off end and put a weight on tip end like a bottle of water  with a string hanging  that puts a bend in rod about what you need then put first guide near handle and then the tip. then put all the same size guides  on line and as you need about 6-7 guides and as you sriral them around rod keep it away from rod dont let it touch rod  thats what i read   hope it works  kb

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I heard an analogy one time that said this.  Think of it like shooting a rifle.  What happens when you have a bullet to small for the barrel?  It bounces side to side and gets all wacked out of place, but when you have a proper fitting bullet it slides right out with no bouncing, it comes out straight and goes your aiming.

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Are the guides big enough that a knot can pass thru them on the cast if you were using braid with a fluoro leader?

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......the smallest guide to pass your connections should be used.

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