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Baitcast skipping rod?

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I'm sure I own more than one rod that could be used for this technique, but am curious to see what act. power. and model rods you guy's use? ;D

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I use a GLoomis SJ723 IMX custom (yep spinning rod) and a Shimano Twin Power to skip with. I know that a lot of guys consider skipping with a baitcaster as the "holy grail" of casting. To me, it's like taking a dump truck to a stock car race. Skip with a spinning reel and avoid all the line picking. JMHO

Ronnie

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I use a GLoomis SJ723 IMX custom (yep spinning rod) and a Shimano Twin Power to skip with. I know that a lot of guys consider skipping with a baitcaster as the "holy grail" of casting. To me, it's like taking a dump truck to a stock car race. Skip with a spinning reel and avoid all the line picking. JMHO

Ronnie

Great advice !!!!!!!

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I'll avoid skipping on purpose with my baitcaster.

M/F or M/XF Spinning rig for me.

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Same for me, I can do both spinning and baitcast, I use a Loomis spinning rod and 8# flourocarbon.

But for the heavier stuff like a 3/8 jig and 14# line for docks, baitcast would be better.

The only time I skip with a baitcaster, it's with my frog rod, and I'm usually trying to skip under heavy brush and laydowns. I don't think it matters much what length, power, and action baitcasting rod you choose to skip with. Results will be inconsistent and mediocre at best, unless you spend an unreasonable amount of time(for an amateur) practicing and perfecting this very difficult technique. Frankly, baitcasting reels are not meant to skip lures with.

Fishing docks with skipped and pitched jigs and plastics is one of my favorite techniques. I have gone through a few combos looking for what I like in a skipping rod. A longer, heavier spinning rod is much better suited to skipping soft plastics around docks. The longer length allows you to control and steer the fish better once hooked, but it will require more practice to become accurate at skipping because of the increase tip speed when using a long rod.

I use a St. Croix Avid, 7' MH/F spinning rod, and a 20-30 lb braided mainline with a 3-5', 12-17 lb flourocarbon leader. Braided line skips the best because it flows more easily from a spinning reel than with any other line, and the heavier-than-expected flourocarbon leader gives you excellent abrasion resistance around sharp metal docks.

I think I'd be "skipping the bait-casting rod"  :P

Goofy, unbalanced darn things anyway. Real fishermen use spinning rods  :)  LOL

Peace,

Fish

Most of the skipping I do is under docks.  Since I generally like to use baitcast reels I've tried improving on this technique.  I've gotten better,  but its easier to do with a 6' or 6'6" spinning setup.

That being said,  I'd rather use BC anyway.  A 6'6" or 6' BC works better than a longer rod IMHO when your in close proximity to the target.  If your farther away I don't think it matters as much.  Close -up skipping is pretty much the only time I don't use a 7' rod.

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Skipping what?  For the most part, its the same rod I use for that bait anyway.

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1/4 to 3/8 ounce jigs. 

Docks.

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I don't use anything that small on docks.  For 1/2 oz. and larger, I use my flipping stick, a 7-6 XH/Mod-Fast.  The "skip" is a backhand pitch skip cast.  I find the length helps with getting tip velocity.

I find rods with moderate fast or fast action to be easier to skip with than XF rods. Preferably a lighter rod and reel too since I find skipping with a BC to be easier when you can snap your wrist sharply without much effort.

I think the reel choice has a little to do with it as well. I personally have a significantly easier time skipping with my Magforce V reels than my Magforce Z or Centrifugal Braking reels, although this might be different for others.

I also find limper more manageable lines to be desirable - I have a much easier time skipping with YoZuri Hybrid 12# Ultrasoft on a BC than say, 12# CXX. Still doable with the CXX, although it takes a bit more focus and effort.

I use a GLoomis SJ723 IMX custom (yep spinning rod) and a Shimano Twin Power to skip with. I know that a lot of guys consider skipping with a baitcaster as the "holy grail" of casting. To me, it's like taking a dump truck to a stock car race. Skip with a spinning reel and avoid all the line picking. JMHO

Ronnie

Couldn't agree more.  I tip my hat to people who can do it with a baitcasting rig....I can even make it work maybe a couple of times out of 10.  So much easier using a good spinning outfit.

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I don't think I could skip a jig with a spinner.  How is that done?  Its pretty easy with a baitcaster.  Not trying to argue, I'm really curious.  I'm talking 1/2 to 3/4 oz. jigs.

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I don't think I could skip a jig with a spinner. How is that done? Its pretty easy with a baitcaster. Not trying to argue, I'm really curious. I'm talking 1/2 to 3/4 oz. jigs.

There used to be a good video of Russ (Low Budget Hooker) skipping w/a spinning reel. I couldn't find it, but here's a youtube of how it's done at about 1:15.

Ronnie

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It's really not as hard as it looks with a baitcaster when you actually spend the time to learn. 

Start out with your braking system or cast control tight and loosen as you get better.

I will admit, Accuracy and a spinning rod don't go together with me, and I can't learn it !  >:P

I love skipping senkos with my 7' M fast rod. It's actually a bps extreme woo daves cranking rod. gets the job done quite nicely.

For me I find a better reel with the correct weight is more tuned with skipping then a rod.

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Alpster's reply X2.

Use a spinning setup for skipping.

You can use a baitcaster but you will have to modify your reel by placing tape over the line so that the backlash will go only so deep.

And you will have to practice, practice, practice when you can be fishing, fishing, fishing.

Learn how to flip and pitch under docks and cover with a biatcaster before trying your luck skipping with a baitcaster.

Just a suggestion.  :P

I skip with all of my rods and reels when ever necessary... that said I don't usually try to skip my crankbaits, spinnerbaits, ect. :P lol but I do skip jigs and plastics alot.

Practice Practice Practice

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