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i think its an irish setter? could be wrong.

If it is I think it is a cross with a English Setter.

Kelley

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It is one of three breeds.  A small or large musterlander or an outside possibility of a long hair german pointer. These links you will see dogs with a lot of white and some that are mottled like the one in the picture.

http://www.smallmunsterlander.org/

http://www.lmcna.org/

http://www.germanlonghairpointers.com/

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Hard to tell from the pictures but if I had to guess I'd say German Wire Hair Pointer.

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Not to be rude but bird dogs are my speciality, definitely not a GWP, nor a setter of any breed. After looking at the picture more, the more I'm convinced it is a small munsterlander, I don't have that copy of Gun Dog, cancelled my subscription when I had to quit hunting. The head of the dog in question is too refined for a Large Munsterlander, and it definitely isn't a setter head, ears are set wrong and muzzle too short, muzzle is also shorter than the typical German Longhaired.  The German Wirehair typically has furnishings, beard and eyebrows, see pic below.  There are several breeders for the SM, but pups are quite expensive.

Picture of Munsterlanders, German Longhaired and German Wirehair, the bearded one is the wirehair. first one in series is a black phase Large Munsterlander, 2nd GWP, third Small Munsterlander, and finally a German Longhaired

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throw the Wachtelhund into the mix of possibilities too

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Thai,

Do you have a Wachtelhund? Neat little dogs that bark when they flush, that would be a nice notification. I mainly used pointing dogs, but did have a springer once, I used her to flush the birds after the pointing breeds located it, if it was to thick for me to get to or if I was unable to traverse the terrain, and of course retrieving duties.

As far as birddogs that I've shared the field with and owned me. 

English Setters 3, English Pointer 1, German Shorthair 1, and a German Wirehair 1.  My favorite of these was the wirehair, his life was too short, and could never bring myself to the point that I could get another.  My second favorite were my english setters, I had one Ryman, one Smith bred and one LLewellyn, the llewellyn was my favorite, was actually scent pointing at nine weeks.  Awesome little dog, unfortunately I had to sell her, as my health declined to the point I was no longer able to chase wild birds, nor train.  It sucked, still does.

The title on the magazine next to the dog says The Red Setter. I don't know if they are reffering to the dog on the cover.

To me it looks like a German short-haired pointer

To me it looks like a German short-haired pointer

With long hair?  Absolutely not as I have seen about every variation and coloration of short hair and none of them have long hair. 

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A small Irish Setter?

I had one. He was nuts.

He was a beautiful small Irish Setter.

Next dog looked like a Flat Coat Retriever but since we got her at the pound we never knew her heritage.

She was sweet.

Will always get a female dog in the future.  :)

The dog in the picture is a Small Munsterlander (SM). Read the bottom left of the Contents page. I'm a Wachtelhund breeder and the Chairman of Deutscher Wachtelhund North America, Inc. The Deutscher Wachtelhund (DW) and SM look very much a like and have similar coats that range from long and wavy to long and smooth. The SM being only slightly taller in the leg and is a pointer. The Wachtelhund is a flusher, but still a versatile gun dog that will any type of game: feathered or fur, small or large game, game or predators; including blooding wounded game. The coloring of the dog on Gundog is called schimmel in German. Wachtelhunds come in two primary colors; schimmel and solid brown. Also there are several colorations caused by recessive genes; solid blond to red or brownscheck and heltiger (dogs with solid brown and white patterns). The one post in this thread showing a Wachtelhund retrieving a pheasant was one of my dogs, copied from a web site. If you want more info on the Wachtelhund you can PM me.

Dave Pepe

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The dog in the picture is a Small Munsterlander (SM). Read the bottom left of the Contents page. I'm a Wachtelhund breeder and the Chairman of Deutscher Wachtelhund North America, Inc. The Deutscher Wachtelhund (DW) and SM look very much a like and have similar coats that range from long and wavy to long and smooth. The SM being only slightly taller in the leg and is a pointer. The Wachtelhund is a flusher, but still a versatile gun dog that will any type of game: feathered or fur, small or large game, game or predators; including blooding wounded game. The coloring of the dog on Gundog is called schimmel in German. Wachtelhunds come in two primary colors; schimmel and solid brown. Also there are several colorations caused by recessive genes; solid blond to red or brownscheck and heltiger (dogs with solid brown and white patterns). The one post in this thread showing a Wachtelhund retrieving a pheasant was one of my dogs, copied from a web site. If you want more info on the Wachtelhund you can go to my web site: Eagle River Wachtelhunds or Deutscher Wachtelhund North America, Inc..

Dave Pepe

DWNA, Chairman

Well, you beat me to it. I was going to say that it's a Small Munsterlander. I'm a bit of a bird dog guy myself (hence the screen name).

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