ok, so Ive given up on trying to break the patern.......... i always com plain about this lake, but im determined to figure it out. theres bass there. i see them, ive caught them.... i just cant make them bite anywhere near enough!

heres the rundown

the lake: Sippo Lake, Canton/Perry, OH  roughly 90acres. Natural mudbottomed lake with medium sized rocks  with lots of space between them about 3-5feet off shore the whole way around the lake. Water clarity is practically non-existent. Lilly pads almost the entire way around, mostly the Ohio tall pads growing around 6-12inches over the surface and packed in tight. some low surface pads, but not alot. NO natural cover in the lake that I know of. There is a shallow end of the lake but the pads OWN it. and any open water isnt accesible. there is a small shallow run up thats surrounded by posts in the water and TONS of pads, but gets overrun by ducks and geese most of the year. The lakes only about 10-12 feet deep in the midsection. And the wind blows longways along the lake.....       no wadding is allowed, only boats, or shore fishing, I use a rental boat and dont own any electronics....

-Ive had success with zoom horny toads on the pads in general. worms, jigs, cranks, and tubes havent proved successful so far....

my spinnerbaits get smacked, but never hit solidenough to hookup....

-forage in the lake includes TONS of bluegill, some crappie, and a small percentage of noticable crawfish..... there are some shinners in there too that somehow escaped the carp and bass.

theres one large school of carp... and a decent percentage of channel cats. some big some small.

Ive fished the entire shoreline/lillypad lines of the lake, and come up emptyhanded except in one spot... a cove sheltered by the wind by a grove of trees and it has surface pads and tall pads surrounding it. But when the zoom hornytoad bite is off.... the lake seems off.     I dont understand this lake at all.....

I mean maybe its because Im just still really new to fishing, but Its just wierd.   Ive fished it at hignoon, early mornings....evening....(night is outta the question the park is closed at sundown)     I just cant figure it out. Ive taken everytip thats been thrown my way and atleast given it a fair shot.....

short of having somebody drop thier rig in and sonar the entire lake looking for some super bass sweetspot I dont know what to do!?    the only thing i havent tried is working the deepest section of the lake, mainly because id be fishing it blind!       Would someone please help me crack this dang pattern! the fish turn off bigtime when theres storms, and they short smack everything!? ive only gotten four or five solid bites in the last two years ive seriously fished there.

I just dont get it!

If anyone wants to come out here and put a boat in the water and show me how its done id be MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE A LESSON!

let me know what you think.

recap: the lures that get bites are..

-the ocassional popper

-zoom hornytoads(& other frogs)

-some spinnerbaits get smacked

-the ocassional shakey worm

-BRIGHT COLORS underwater

-natural and softer colors ontop

HELP!!!!!!!

I just got the location of that cove like spot i mentioned... its whereive had most of my success......  dont let the look of the rest of the lake fool you tho....... its by no means how it looks most of the year.... its usually so clogged with pads you cant get to the shore anwhere inbetween the two furthest piers/docks on the one side of the lake!

heres the coords.

40* 47'59.12"N

81* 27'10.66"W

google earth it.... let me know what you think!

I would try a bluegill colored crankbait, or a jig with a ragetail craw as a trailer, pitching into and around the lilly pads.

A powerworm should be great in the pads man.

put a trailer hook on those spinnerbaits and try some mega strike. have you tried dropping a senko or jig into the holes in the pads? most times I have thick pads I will throw a senko as close to the edges as possible. I hope you have a stout rod and some heavy 50-65# braid to get them out of the pads. let us know what works and don't give up.

put a trailer hook on those spinnerbaits and try some mega strike.

X2!!!

I would also try a popper on the edges of the lily pads

Don't forget about the bigger worms also, big bait big fish IMO

Carolina rig, black trick worm wacky rig.....at night!

Here's the answer:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1180909581

8-)

number one..... night fishing.... outta the question.... read dudes.... lol..... the lake closes at drak, and the boat has to be back at the marina way before then........

number two...... the weightless senko trick has really worked yet....... i have gotten smacked on the spinnerbaits, bu theres only one or two edges straight enough for me to really utilize a spinnerbait.....

I LOVE fishing big worms..... theyre just a blast to fish......

but im not really sure what im supposed to be doing with them. sofar, my choice is a zoom monster in black....... the popper was my first lure i figured out how to use..... it got me bites but they were few and far between, I mean.........

HERES A GOOD QUETION TO ANSWER.....

How do I fish the popper in with the rest of my non dawn/dusk hour patterns?

and two...... how should i use that kreature,    i actually just bought a pack of the ...... um... konamis bug?! is that what its called? it was cleranced and looked fun, but i havent gotten it to the lake... would someone please explain how to rig it up and how to fish it?!

thanks guys!

keep the input coming!

look for irregularities in the pads, not just holes, but "points" created by pads goin into deeper water. places with wood and pads would also be a good bet also. what ive found to be pretty productive is "transition" areas, like mud changing over to sand. try some sort of bluegill imitation, maybe some sort of swimbait on weed edges? idk, ive just never fished pads before. im just goin by what i do on thick shoreline weeds.

rules of thumb:

jig/sinking lure in holes

hard baits on edges(rage tail works wonders here!)

frogin the slop!

-j

edit: from reading  your post, sounds like dingy water. use some lures with VIBRATION.