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Hi everybody,

Im posting this on various forums to get a broad opinion. What do you think of clubs requiring forced pairing, that is when a club requires that boaters be paired with other boaters when there are no more co-anglers available. What do you think and why? This applies to local bass clubs not national trails or tournaments. Thanks for the replies.

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Welcome aboard!

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Say what you will, but the number one reason for pairing is to keep the other guy honest. Its probably not fair to pair boaters together and have different rules for them like 50/50 time, when other boaters get the front all day. The closest I've seen to fair, ... angler/co-angler with observers for missing co-anglers. But that said the rules are rules and if you don't like them don't enter.

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Welcome.  You will definately get some opinions here.  I think the bottom line is the rules are the rules and you know them prior to signing up. I can see however how some guys might feel as if they are getting screwed.

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WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rules are defined before you sign up for a particular club or tournament. If you have problem with them, then stay away.

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the pairing deal is for keeping all fair and honest... It used to be that they would send a ride along or an observer unless the fisherman wanted to team up.. Regrettably Pride comes in and the front seat means alot to people... Whether they live up to it or not...

And yes, the rules are normally defined prior to entering, make sure you read them thoroughly even though you think something like that may never happen..  In other words Rules are rules...

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"The heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: ~Who can know it?" Jer. 17:9.

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What do you think of clubs requiring forced pairing, that is when a club requires that boaters be paired with other boaters when there are no more co-anglers available.

Sounds like you guys need some more members...  most clubs would love to have "too many" boaters!  You could fix that with a mention or two at local tackle shops.  

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I'd probably leave my club if they made that rule.  I don't cheat or anything, I'd just rather fish with my same old fishing partner.  

I've never heard of a club that does that.

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It's not always about keeping the guys honest - sometimes it's about promoting comradship.  Our club has a rule that says if we have more boaters than non-boaters signed up for a tournament draw that we start drawing from the boater pool, the first name picked is the boater and the second name picked is the non-boater - a boater can only be drawn out of their boat once per year though.

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I don't mind fishing as a non-boater, when I choose to be a non-boater.  I bought a tournament ready boat so I could be a boater and I will not fish tournaments that will not allow me the choice.

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Thanks to all of you who replied.

OK I posted this question on 7 different forum sites to get a broad picture on what people think and I did it because there are several clubs in my area and some have forced pairing and some do not and it seems to have strong opinions on both sides. If your main argument was that "rules are rules" you absolutely missed the whole point of the question and your post was not counted. So after a month here are the results. I got 1191 replies in all. 1109 were counted.

On a club level:

81% are against it.

92% of them stated that they would not join or would quit a club that had it.

Top 3 reasons against it.

1. At the club level you should be able to trust the guys in your club.  

2. I did not buy a boat to be on another guy's boat.

3. it's a club not the classic

Top 3 reasons for it.

1. To keep other guys honest

2. Safety (only 3 people cited this)

3. Rules are rules (I only listed this because it was the only other reason given besides numbers 1 and 2 above)

On a regional or national level:

41% are against it.

92% of which are pro anglers.

The most popular reason against it:

1. Can't stand co-anglers or observers

Most popular reason for it:

1. Keep the other guy honest.      

Overall:

On the club level the vast majority do not like it. And in all honesty the proponents of forced pairing at the club level could not present a valid argument besides "rules are rules" or 'keeping the other guy honest". I all honesty if you have a club where you need to keep the other guy honest you need to join another club. In reality there is no need for it at the club level. As one guy put it "It should be about fun, if you want to make it like your fishing the classic then go fish the classic."

On the regional or national level it's another story. Most of you agree with the need for it, and so do I. Pro's were the main opposition for it the majority of whom stated as their main objection the annoyance of co-anglers. Some might think this rude but if you fished for a living like they do you might think different.  

That it, and again thanks to all those who responded.

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