all this info, I may be setting up for this sometime soon.  

We don't have lily-pads on any of the popular fishing lakes here in AZ. But this thread has got me thinking back to the days we spent at my stepmother's familie's cottage in Wisconsin. It's on a little lake that has abundant lily-pads. A friend of ours that goes up there a lot showed us how to fish with a grass frog on top of the lily-pads. Man, that was some of the funnest bass fishing I'd ever experienced. Even if you miss the fish it's still exciting to see them come up out of the lillies and nail that little frog. I've caught several nice fish on that lake using the frog, and I've lost about double that.

i use a hevy action rod with 50 pound power pro and a super frog the power pro cuts throught any thing 10 pound power pro actually has cut me a few times