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can the "wrong" lure spook bass?

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I was wondering if a lure can turn off the bite.  What I mean is, let's say you start off with a noisy lure like a chatterbait in a particular spot.  The bass don't want that on a particular day.  So you follow up with a senko.  If you've dragged the chatterbait in front of some bass a couple times, can they get spooked or turned off?  Maybe the sensed some sort of danger from the noisy lure?  

To ask the same question in another way...If you decide that the bass aren't interested in a particular lure and it's time to change, do you throw the new lure in the same spot or is it better to move somewhere different for a while?

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I've been cutting back on using a chatterbait lately. Bass sometimes jump out of the water getting away from it. Sometimes they try to destroy it, though. Yes, you can spook the bite choosing the wrong lure, making it necessary to leave a good spot. I prefer starting off with a quiet lure until I determine they want some action and noise. However, the most likely time you'll spook the bite is with a bass on a spawn bed, overwhelming it with something too outrageous.

If I think a bass is in a spot I might spend 10 minutes there trying different lures, presentations, colors, maybe hitting it 30-50 times trying to aggravate it into biting. I might also chase him off with a buzzbait on the first cast. Or maybe that buzzbait on the first cast is the only chance I'll have to hook it. That's what keeps fishing interesting.

Jim

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If there in fact was bass where you threw a particular bait, I don't think you could spook them with that particular bait.

If you have thrown several different baits into an area without a resulting bite you have the following scenerio:

1) There are no bass in the area

2) The bass in the area just aren't biting on those things you are throwing, in the manner that you are throwing the.

Spooked, no: not there, or not biting: yes.

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We just had this conversation on the boat the other day.  I was throwing a super spook and working it very aggressively.  Drew in one miss from somthing very big.  My buddy was fishing a senko and was catching sm to med fish.  

He was surprised that he was getting bites with me throwing the spook around.  Frankly so was I.  

I always accepted the theory of this question to be true but proved otherwise monday.  I think if they are hungry enough, not much will keep them from somthing they percieve as a meal.  Kinda like us!  

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i had this happen to me yesterday, i started with a spinner, and moved to a rat-l-trap, which landed a fish. buddy was throwing a crankbait which caught a 3lb'er .  i moved to the spook after the sun was setting and we were bite-less for the next 15 mins.  I was thining it was due to throwing my spook, but then my buddy put on a french spinner, and had a large northern follow it to the boat.

I now believe the bass may have been spooked by the northern, rather than my bait.

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In all these conversations it is extremely important to remember one thing: as fast as you extablish a rule with bass, they will change it, as they live by no rules.

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Seems like the consensus is that if the fish are there and are hungry, they're not likely to get "spooked."  Still, I like Jim's idea of starting with the more subtle bait and then going more noisy.  I guess that's not always practical, since a lot of times I start out in the morning with a buzzbait and then switch over to the senko when the sun gets up.  

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My general rule of thumb is if no wind is blowing and the surface is slick I throw a real quiet lure first. If there is a hard wind blowing I throw a loud lure. When I talk about loud and quiet I am more worried about the splash a lure makes rather than the noise it makes working in the water. I have seen bass in clear calm water run from a lure splashing down. At times a Senko is a loud lure to me because it makes a pretty loud splash in real calm water. Instead of the Senko I will usually throw a trickworm with a 1/32 oz weight since it has less splash. I agree with George also in the fact that fish dont always follow the rules.

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In a way. Its not really the lure, as much as the presentation.

very true

its like the articles on the 'tips and tactics' section say...not casting a lure into the water properly is as good as tossing a rock into the water...its a for sure spooking.

you want to perfect the side arm cast or underhand cast to get the softest presentation possible. once in the water, i dont think the action would spook a fish...unless its a buzzbait in the early morning when the waters so calm its like a mirror...

start quite, gradually get louder until the fish are fed up and attack.

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I don't think a typical bass lure presented properly will spook a bass.  It's not uncommon these days for successful pros to pound a spot with repeated casts till the bass strikes.

On the other hand toss a hud on the head of a 1-2 lber and he may relocate.....pronto.

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yes i did it today i didnt see the bass then when i throw my senko ing it land like 5 in next to then it move that when i notice it and it swain off not to be seen the rest of the day

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My partner and I have teamed up together this year in several team tournaments and have won a few and placed in the money close to half the time. Part of our success we feel is due to our noisy/quiet approach or vice versa. One of us would throw a spinnerbait or other noisy lure while the other would throw something quiet like senko or a tube etc. Sometimes we had to reverse the order depending on what the fish wanted but more often than not it was noisy/quiet that worked for us. I should point out that most of the water we fished was muddy to slightly stained this year. Perhaps the noisy bait helped in locating and the quiet bait drew the strike?   :)      

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