This one is just about over.

J Francho, I believe it was mislabeled because the tag (Just plain white) said $40, and it rang up for even less at $30. And yes, Lacrosse is out of season, so maybe it was a sale. I have no idea. And no, there isn't any markings on the sticker besides the price.

STX Scandium Pro.

Phhhhtt! $100 shaft reduced to clear inventory. The price was right.

This thread is starting to go in many directions away from the original post. In no way do I feel a person taking advantage of a knowingly mis marked item is a truely dishonest person that should be on death row or life without parole for what may think a crime of morality. I think a flogging would suffice.

Well said SirSnook. I have long been an advocate for public caning/flogging.

How was I not paying attention? I asked you if you thought they were right.

You have to have an opinion on whether those things are right or wrong.

And to bring up incest that happened thousands of years ago as an argument to prove your point is kind of a cop out.

Uhh no, what I was explaining to KMAC is that what is right, what is wrong, ethics, and morality are all man made. My example of incest was to show how popular belief, what is right or wrong, or ethically correct has changed over the course of man kind. You cant say that "x" belief has been certain throughout mankind. That's all I'm getting at. Most defiantly not a 'cop out', if you actually paid attention.

Let's just focus on today's society. Would you agree without morals and ethics you would be an outcast of society, and either end up in jail or possibly dead?

Well Blvd, without society's morals and ethics jail would not exist.

What I was getting at in the first place was, just because you think it's right or wrong, does not make it universal, and to label someone as a thief because they are doing something they consider ok (and still not ILLEGAL...aka: purchasing an item that's been mislabeled), is completely out of line due to the fact that everything around us is subjective.

Meh...would have done the same thing. Might feel a wee bit bad. But only a wee bit. I don't steal things, never have never will. I still paid for it right? Right. Therefore I did not steal.

Ask The Natural how that worked out for him. He paid the price on the sticker at checkout so he didn't steal it? The cops that were searching for him across multiple states thought differently.

Guys its not stealing I've done it on numerous occasions at Academy Sports & Outdoors. Went up with the product told the cashier what had happened manager comes over checks out the story then lets me going paying the price marked on the package.

As long as its their fault most stores are under obligation to meet the price marked on the product.

Like I said go up be honest tell them the truth about what happen.If they say they can't let you have it at that price just say thanks and don't buy it.

Capt.O

Ask The Natural how that worked out for him. He paid the price on the sticker at checkout so he didn't steal it? The cops that were searching for him across multiple states thought differently.

The Natural was deliberately switching price tags himself. Not quite what's going on here.

As long as its their fault most stores are under obligation to meet the price marked on the product.

Not really obligated, but most stores (especially big box stores) have a policy to honor the price, depending on the circumstance.

I absolutely loved this chapter from the high school sociology/philosophy book!

The Natural was deliberately switching price tags himself. Not quite what's going on here.

Oh we're sticking to the exact situation? Where did the incest reference come from then?

Oh we're sticking to the exact situation? Where did the incest reference come from then?

Lmao! Ask KMAC. You were basically saying that The Natural got in trouble for buying a mislabeled item, where in fact he was the one that was switching the labels. Get your facts straight.

References to The Natural and incest arguments don't really belong here.

Would buying one item that you knew was mislabelled be considered theft and result in prosecution? no.

Are mislabelled items always the store's fault? no, other customers or kids could switch things around.

Should you "stick it to" big box stores? Why? What did they do to you except provide you with products that you wish to buy? Why would you punish them for that?

If you don't want to "feel bad" or question yourself afterwards about buying a potentially mislabelled item then ask at the cashier or customer service if the price is correct. If they say yes then you've done everything that you should. It's actually quite simple really.

Lmao! Ask KMAC.

Why should I ask him when the thread clearly shows that it was you and your right and wrong are metaphysical constructs created from nothing so they're meaningless tangent?

If you don't want to "feel bad" or question yourself afterwards about buying a potentially mislabeled item then ask at the cashier or customer service if the price is correct. If they say yes then you've done everything that you should. It's actually quite simple really.

It's that simple.

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If you don't want to "feel bad" or question yourself afterwards about buying a potentially mislabeled item then ask at the cashier or customer service if the price is correct. If they say yes then you've done everything that you should. It's actually quite simple really.

It's that simple.

It is that simple.

I've stayed away from this thread because I suspected it could evolve into a discussion about absolutes regarding right and wrong and the subject of a supreme authority creating these absolutes. Whether you believe that absolutes have been decreed by a higher being, or you just believe right and wrong is something that humans have created, I think there is one way to guide your own actions.

If you think that an action you are about to take hurts someone else, don't do it. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." This obviously leaves room for debate on some actions.

I absolutely loved this chapter from the high school sociology/philosophy book!

Me too Dan! You will remember this:

XL like Nietzsche and Sartre your argument that there are no absolutes except the absolute freedom to set your own rules of conduct (or the individual as the highest authority if you prefer) is self defeating.

Here are my final words on the subject (maybe a few too late by some standards ):

"What, then, is ethics? Ethics is two things. First, ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues. Ethics, for example, refers to those standards that impose the reasonable obligations to refrain from rape, stealing, murder, assault, slander, and fraud. Ethical standards also include those that enjoin virtues of honesty, compassion, and loyalty. And, ethical standards include standards relating to rights, such as the right to life, the right to freedom from injury, and the right to privacy. Such standards are adequate standards of ethics because they are supported by consistent and well-founded reasons.

Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. As mentioned above, feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, then, the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based."

The above quote is from Issues in Ethics as quoted on the Markkula Center For Applied Ethics web site. Here is the link:

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/practicing/decision/whatisethics.html

Why should I ask him when the thread clearly shows that it was you and your right and wrong are metaphysical constructs created from nothing so they're meaningless tangent?

umadbro?

Me too Dan! You will remember this:

XL like Nietzsche and Sartre your argument that there are no absolutes except the absolute freedom to set your own rules of conduct (or the individual as the highest authority if you prefer) is self defeating.

Here are my final words on the subject (maybe a few too late by some standards ):

"What, then, is ethics? Ethics is two things. First, ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues. Ethics, for example, refers to those standards that impose the reasonable obligations to refrain from rape, stealing, murder, assault, slander, and fraud. Ethical standards also include those that enjoin virtues of honesty, compassion, and loyalty. And, ethical standards include standards relating to rights, such as the right to life, the right to freedom from injury, and the right to privacy. Such standards are adequate standards of ethics because they are supported by consistent and well-founded reasons.

Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. As mentioned above, feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, then, the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based."

The above quote is from Issues in Ethics as quoted on the Markkula Center For Applied Ethics web site. Here is the link:

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/practicing/decision/whatisethics.html

False. Read a book, take a few college level philosophy classes, and then talk about ethics.

LMAO, you actually need books and a few college courses to decide what the right thing to do is? :lol:

LMAO, you actually need books and a few college courses to decide what the right thing to do is? :lol:

Of course! Anyone that hasn't gone to college need not respond in this thread, I wonder if there is a way to lock it so the unedumacated stay out?

umadbro?

Nope, just pointing out nonsense. unohow2spellbro? Maybe you should take a few elementary classes on spelling and word choice and after that post on the forums.

I guess that about does it.