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Straight Shanks And Snell Knots


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#1 Teal

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Posted February 07 2013 - 01:13 PM

Like alot of guys i have always fished my plastics on offset worm hooks and EWGs with an improved clinch knot or a Braid knot when tying directly to braid. I have used straight shank flipping hooks but only with bigger, thicker creature baits.

With all that back ground said, i have been reading more and more about pros, local guides, and weekend worriors like myself using straigh shank hooks on almost all of their softplastics (except for swimbaits and such) they say that the hook up ratio is better.

Ive also read that alot of people are recommending the snell knot for better hook ups.

My questions are , what are yalls thoughts? Are snell knots the real deal? Are they just good for straight shank hooks? Are any of you using just snells?

I have actually sat down and learned the knot and have been practicing it.

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Posted February 07 2013 - 02:22 PM

It is for sure the real deal. I have used a modified snell knot on my straight shank hooks the past 3-4 years and my hook up percentages have increased greatly. I'd say by 40-50%.. I will stick a fish 9 times out of 10 in the roof of the mouth using a modified snell (the other 10% i may get them in the corner or bottom jaw) :). My point is I rarely miss or lose a fish anymore.

 

 I have yet to have the knot slip with braid and i'm only doing 3 or 4 twists down the top shank of the hook. I will fish the rig all day and sometimes a couple days and not retie if my line isn't fraying. Just make sure when you tie the knot and it's cinched down to pull AS HARD AS YOU CAN  on the main line and the inside bend of the hook, in opposite directions. Leave a little extra tag end and you are set to go.  



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Posted February 07 2013 - 02:29 PM

Are you using the straight shank for most your worms and such or just flipping baits. Whats the method to the madness when choosing which baits get the straight hook?

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Posted February 07 2013 - 03:15 PM

Add a touch of superglue.  Snells work on the precept of the more the fish pulls,  the tighter it gets.  Braid can tend to slip,  whereas mono stretches and squeezes tighter on itself.


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Posted February 07 2013 - 03:54 PM

As long as i'm fishing a plastic with a weight and on the bottom 75% of the time i'm using the snell knot with a straight shank hook. If i'm not in heavy cover, say i'm on a deep weed line fishing a worm, I will use a lighter wire straight shank hook. I still do use offset worm hooks from time to time on my non flipping baits, due to the fact that you won't go through as many baits in a day (straight shanks really eat up your baits in a hurry). If i'm out fishing for fun and really don't care if I miss a couple fish, or don't want to go through a ton of baits, I will use a offset worm hook. Not saying I don't ever miss fish with a straight shank, but for me it is considerably less. Come tournament day you can bet my plastics will be riding a straight shank hook with a snell knot. 

 

 I started using the snell knot with copolymer line last year with good results as well. In my experience most times you will need to retie due to line nicks or fraying before having to worry about the knot slipping. Again, I also leave the tag end a little longer than normal when using a snell knot. 



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Posted February 07 2013 - 05:03 PM

When you set a snelled hook, it will cam upward and that helps to hook the fish.  That's IF you tied it properly and inserted the line through the front of the hook (the side with the point) when you began the knot.


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Posted February 07 2013 - 06:38 PM

Def the real deal. I snell every worm hook every time. If there's no shank, I'll palomar it. I've snelled my wacky hooks down to size 4.

 

So EWGs, straight shanks, short shanks, I snell 'em. If I'm tying direct braid, I'll do several more wraps around the shank.


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Posted February 07 2013 - 09:06 PM

Anyone have a link to a video on how to tie?
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Posted February 07 2013 - 09:16 PM

I use the snell knot for all my single hooks and definetly noticed an increase in hook ups but that also could be to me tying crappy knots before learning the snell. Also I tie a single overhand knot when done Snelling the hook.

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Posted February 07 2013 - 09:17 PM

This is the modified snell that I personally use.. Skip to 1:20 to by pass him pushing his products if you wish. 

 



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Posted February 08 2013 - 07:28 AM

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Posted February 08 2013 - 08:42 AM

I'm starting to use snell knots on my offsets too. Not sure that it makes a difference, but I use strait shanks a lot more and yes, I snell them.

I also snell a 3/0 Gammy finesse wide gap hook for my senkos. I just might start Snelling my drop shot hooks...... Idk, this knot is crazy awesome!!!

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Posted February 08 2013 - 10:12 AM

This is the modified snell that I personally use.. Skip to 1:20 to by pass him pushing his products if you wish. 

 

 

I thought that was just regular snell. What part is modified?



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Posted February 08 2013 - 10:16 AM

 Anyone use snell with flouro? Any failing?



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Posted February 08 2013 - 10:59 AM

There are a lot of different ways to tie a snell knot. If you ask 5 different people you may get 5 different answers.  If you google or youtube how to tie a snell knot you'll see what I mean, you can find many different ways to tie a snell. I found this one to be the easiest and it works so I stick with it. 






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